Re: What is the problem with "\relative"? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

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Ali,

Frescobaldi does, in fact, offer the capability of changing LilyPond input code 
between absolute and relative in EITHER direction.

-David

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ali Cuota" <address@hidden>
> To: "Simon Albrecht" <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 4:12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: What is the problem with "\relative"? (Was: Do we really offer   
> the future?)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am only a user and very thankfull, both for ly and for relative. I
> would have had really thought much longer about ly if relative had not
> be available. Now, I understand the pro of absolute, and I think the
> solution is in the editors functionalities. If, let say Frescobaldi,
> would offer a preprocessor to translate a block from relative to
> absolute, this would be done. Relative is easy to write, absolute easy
> to read, so why choose? Both is better...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Francois
> 
> 2015-04-25 5:34 GMT-05:00, Simon Albrecht <address@hidden>:
> > Am 25.04.2015 um 00:38 schrieb Thomas Morley:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm a little late to the party...
> >>
> >> One very annoying thing about \relative is when you want to use
> >> music-functions catching some music doing something with it.
> >>
> >> Here the less complex function I could think of, returning different
> >> results for absolute and relative.
> >> (It's only a show-case, the functionality could be achieved easily
> >> with other predefined commands, but I hope you'll get the point.)
> >>
> >> repeat-note =
> >> #(define-music-function (parser location music)(ly:music?)
> >>    (make-sequential-music (list music (ly:music-deep-copy music))))
> >>
> >> \absolute { c'1 \repeat-note c'' }
> >> \relative c' { c \repeat-note c'1 }
> > Well, either we require doing
> >
> > \version "2.19.17"
> >
> > repeat-abs-note =
> > #(define-music-function (parser location music)(ly:music?)
> >     (let ((music #{ \absolute $music #}))
> >       (make-sequential-music (list music (ly:music-deep-copy music)))))
> >
> > \absolute { c'1 \repeat-abs-note c'' }
> > \relative c' { c \repeat-abs-note c''1 }
> >
> > or we consider this a bug in (or enhancement request to)
> > (ly:music-deep-copy), towards which I’m inclined.
> >
> > Yours, Simon
> >
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