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Re: accidentals for just intonation
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David Kastrup |
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Re: accidentals for just intonation |
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Tue, 01 Dec 2015 11:27:19 +0100 |
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"Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:
> I have quite an interest in intonation, and my degree dissertation was
> based on the study of musician's reaction to just and equal tempered
> music, and was created using LilyPond. However, I'm not clear why you
> believe that accidentals in non-equal temperaments require different
> signs (I think that's what you're proposing here). It's said that
> early music was based on one or other form of just temperament, and
> used normal accidental signs. To me, they indicate that the music is
> altered to the next higher or lower semitone in the key and
> temperament being employed: so why are other signs needed?
Well, Urs' printing of the cents does have educational purpose. For
example, I can spell out the tuning of a guitar done by pure harmonics
(the highest-sounding two strings in relation to harmonics of the
lowest-sounding one):
e, as a, * 3/4 (e, +2)
a, as a, (a, +0)
d as a, * 4/3 (d -2)
g as d * 4/3 (g -4)
b as e, * 3 (b +4)
e' as e, * 4 (e' +2)
And if that kind of information is spelled in a scale, it becomes
obvious why G major and E minor chords have a problem sounding good out
of the box if you tune to perfect harmonics. Because the interval g-b
should end up as -14 (!) in order to be a pure third, but actually ends
up as +8, a discrepancy of 22 cent.
Which explains why my default manner of tuning a guitar, namely just
tuning each string to sound as I think it should in relation to the
sequence of previous strings, has a good chance to end up more playable
than the followup work of a "serious" guitar player believing in tuning
by using harmonics.
In the scheme of talking about tunings or ad-hoc modifications, a scheme
like Urs' that can accommodate basically a continuity of values
certainly has some merit. As a continuous notation for the sake of
playing, I think it would end up a nuisance.
--
David Kastrup
Re: accidentals for just intonation, Phil Holmes, 2015/12/01
Re: accidentals for just intonation, David Kastrup, 2015/12/01
Re: accidentals for just intonation, ciconia, 2015/12/02
Re: accidentals for just intonation, Graham Breed, 2015/12/02