Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 157, Issue 92

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>   1. Re:big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>      OttavaBracket (Kieren MacMillan)
>   2. Re:saxophon multiphonic, how to (Klaus Blum)
>   3. Re:Telemann's "Strich" (Andrew Bernard)
>   4. Re:big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>      OttavaBracket (Thomas Morley)
>   5. Re:Telemann's "Strich" (Andrew Bernard)
>   6. Re:big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>      OttavaBracket (Kieren MacMillan)
>   7. Re:Telemann's "Strich" (Simon Albrecht)
>   8. pretty-print and localAlterations (Simon Albrecht)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:50:55 -0500
> From: Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden>
> To: Thomas Morley <address@hidden>
> Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>    OttavaBracket
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Hi Harm,
> 
>> you don't provide any code ;)
> 
> Well, to be honest, I didn?t expect an actual [honest-to-goodness Lilypond 
> code] fix: I thought the answer would either be ?look at X snippet? or ?can?t 
> be done? or ?this is issue Y?, or in the very best case scenario ?one *could* 
> create a ?kneed-spanner? thingee, if one wanted to??
> 
> I sometimes forget there are [amazing] people like you on this list, who 
> might actually take it upon themselves to solve such a gargantuan problem as 
> a first response.  =\
> 
> In the future, I?ll make it more explicit when I?m only looking [at first] 
> for a quick ?possible/impossible? answer.
> 
>> I really dislike inline-images.
> 
> Hmmm? I think that?s a problem with my mail application; I?ll look into it, 
> and try to use only outline (?) attachments from now on.
> 
>> Below some code, which hopefully does what you want
> 
> HOLY M OLY! This is fabulous.
> 1. Yes, it appears (at least, from your snippet) to do exactly what I want; I 
> will test it ?in production", and report back ASAP.
> 2. Let me know (off-line, if desired) what a reasonable fee is for your work; 
> I?ll definitely pay you something.
> 
>> Every layout-change will likely result in the need of readjusting?
> 
> That?s fine by me, at least in the short term: I can do all of the tweaking 
> in the edition-engraver (post-layout).
> 
>> It would be far simpler if one could add an option to make-path-stencil to 
>> draw dashed lines.
>> But I found no way to do so. Thus I defined `make-dashed-line-stencil' and 
>> `make-connected-dashed-line-stencil' first.
>> With `kneed-line' I try to give you a little easier to use code at hand, but 
>> I'm really not convinced.
> 
> Well, if anyone else finds this idea worth pursuing/sponsoring, perhaps we 
> can crowd-source your code into an awesome patch!?
> 
> Thanks again!
> I?ll report back soon.
> 
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
> ________________________________
> 
> Kieren MacMillan, composer
> ? website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ? email: address@hidden
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 16:03:15 -0700 (MST)
> From: Klaus Blum <address@hidden>
> To: address@hidden
> Subject: Re: saxophon multiphonic, how to
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> Hi Stefan, 
> 
> according to a saxophone tutor written by Jean-Marie Londeix, the three keys
> for the left palm are called C1, C2 and C4: 
> 
> % ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> \markup \line { 
>  \center-column {
>    C1
>    " "
>    \scale #'(-1 . 1) \woodwind-diagram
>    #'saxophone
>    #'(
>        (cc . ())
>        (lh . (d))
>        (rh . ())
>        )
>  }
>  \hspace #4
>  \center-column {
>    C2
>    " "
>    \scale #'(-1 . 1) \woodwind-diagram
>    #'saxophone
>    #'(
>        (cc . ())
>        (lh . (ees))
>        (rh . ())
>        )
>  }
>  \hspace #4
>  \center-column {
>    C4
>    " "
>    \scale #'(-1 . 1) \woodwind-diagram
>    #'saxophone
>    #'(
>        (cc . ())
>        (lh . (f))
>        (rh . ())
>        )
>  }
> }
> 
> % ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> As you might see, I've flipped the charts with \scale #'(-1 . 1), so they
> show the fingerings from the player's perspective. That's what I learned in
> my clarinet and saxophone lessons.
> 
> HTH, 
> Klaus
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:16:56 +1100
> From: Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>
> To: Robert Blackstone <address@hidden>,
>    <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Telemann's "Strich"
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> Interesting!
> 
> I have a generalised arrow drawing function that draws arrows of any length 
> in any rotational position, done in Scheme. If I removed the arrowhead, do 
> you think that would be useful? My arrows are not tapered lines, but of 
> uniform thickness.
> 
> Amusingly, recently we wanted curved beams. Now we want straight slurs!
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 00:25:18 +0100
> From: Thomas Morley <address@hidden>
> To: Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden>
> Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>    OttavaBracket
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> 2015-12-20 23:50 GMT+01:00 Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden>:
> 
>> HOLY MOLY! This is fabulous.
> 
> Glad you like it.
> 
>> 1. Yes, it appears (at least, from your snippet) to do exactly what I want; 
>> I will test it ?in production", and report back ASAP.
> 
> Though, I'm afraid you will surely notice the disadvantages soon.
> 
>> 2. Let me know (off-line, if desired) what a reasonable fee is for your 
>> work; I?ll definitely pay you something.
> 
> This code isn't ready to be implemented into the source, maybe (and
> its a big maybe) into LSR.
> It's an extended variation of some code I made for a user in the
> german forum some time ago and based on Mike Solomon's fix for
> https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/3230/
> No need for any payment to me.
> 
> You may want to donate something to David K. who really needs it.
> Without his fabulous work I would be far less effective helping on the
> user-list. His work is not always directly noticeable/user-accessible,
> but every time I look up how codings were done in past lily-versions I
> see again how good LilyPond developed, most basic work was David's!
> 
> Speaking only for me, bounties doesn't attract me.
> An interesting problem, good presented (sic) and I'm on it.
> Well, if I've the time for it...
> 
>> 
>>> Every layout-change will likely result in the need of readjusting?
>> 
>> That?s fine by me, at least in the short term: I can do all of the tweaking 
>> in the edition-engraver (post-layout).
> 
> I didn't use the edition-engraver so far, can't say if it will work
> 
>>> It would be far simpler if one could add an option to make-path-stencil to 
>>> draw dashed lines.
>>> But I found no way to do so. Thus I defined `make-dashed-line-stencil' and 
>>> `make-connected-dashed-line-stencil' first.
>>> With `kneed-line' I try to give you a little easier to use code at hand, 
>>> but I'm really not convinced.
>> 
>> Well, if anyone else finds this idea worth pursuing/sponsoring, perhaps we 
>> can crowd-source your code into an awesome patch!?
> 
> I'm not sure a patch will be possible, at least with _this_ approach.
> But maybe with some other, lemme think about it ...
> 
>> Thanks again!
>> I?ll report back soon.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Kieren.
> 
> Cheers,
>  Harm
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:34:37 +1100
> From: Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>
> To: Robert Blackstone <address@hidden>,
>    <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Telemann's "Strich"
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Of course I just realised you don?t need the full generality of my arrow 
> function. You can just use the draw-line function. It?s in the section 
> ?Graphic notation inside markup?.
> 
> Andrew
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:02:44 -0500
> From: Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden>
> To: Thomas Morley <address@hidden>
> Cc: Lilypond-User Mailing List <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: big (?) challenge: multi-segment / multi-angle
>    OttavaBracket
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Hi Harm,
> 
>> Though, I'm afraid you will surely notice the disadvantages soon.
> 
> Well, maybe I already have? but it?s still impressive.  =)
> 
>> You may want to donate something to David K. who really needs it.
> 
> There seems to be a problem with PayPal at the moment; as soon as it clears 
> up, I will send DK a payment.
> 
> More anon,
> Kieren.
> ________________________________
> 
> Kieren MacMillan, composer
> ? website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ? email: address@hidden
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:10:25 +0100
> From: Simon Albrecht <address@hidden>
> To: Robert Blackstone <address@hidden>,
>    address@hidden
> Subject: Re: Telemann's "Strich"
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
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>> On 20.12.2015 12:44, Robert Blackstone wrote:
>> Dear list,
>> 
>> I?m working on a bilingual edition of Telemann?s  Singe-, Spiel- und 
>> General-Ba?-?bungen, a very nice little tutorial consisting almost 
>> entirely of songs with a figured bass line and a written-out realization.
>> In the bass lines Telemann sometimes adds short straight lines 
>> parallel with the note heads, a sort of straight slur, indicating that 
>> the right hand should not play chords except on he first on these 
>> ?slurred? notes. See the attached Telemann's_Strich.png
> 
> I definitely agree with Richard?s interpretation that these are figured 
> bass extenders. The quote in your first example makes it really obvious: 
> ?Der Strich bedeutet, dass die rechte Hand daselbst ruhe? ? ?The line 
> means that the right hand should rest there.?
> For a reengraving it?s definitely better to have them outside the staff, 
> together with the actual figures. One shouldn?t try sticking too closely 
> to the appearance of 18th century writing/engraving.
> 
> Yours, Simon
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:16:02 +0100
> From: Simon Albrecht <address@hidden>
> To: lilypond-user <address@hidden>
> Subject: pretty-print and localAlterations
> Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Hello,
> 
> if I compile the following code:
> 
> %%%%%%%%
> \version "2.19.32"
> #(use-modules (ice-9 pretty-print))
> 
> printKeysig =
> \applyContext #(lambda (context)
>                  (format #t "~a" (pretty-print (ly:context-property context
> 'localAlterations))))
> \relative {
>   es'4 \printKeysig e'
> }
> %%%%%%%%
> 
> I get a spurious #<unspecified> in the console output, on its own line.
> Of course, it?s not an actual problem, but I?d still be curious where it 
> comes from.
> 
> Yours, Simon
> 
> 
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