RE: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

Przemyslaw,

If acceptable, the use of "bracket" style can eliminate the conflict.

Mark

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Przemyslaw Pawelczyk
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi!

No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Przemyslaw Pawelczyk <address@hidden>
wrote:,
> I have a problem with \sustainOn and \sustainOff colliding each other 
> in some cases.
> I use following pattern
>
>     s32*31\sustainOn s32\sustainOff
[...]
> but it often looks bad on the paper.

You can see the problem below:
http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mar
k-collision.pdf
http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mar
k-collision.ly

BTW Isn't it a bug that those collisions happen at all?

>
> Is there any way to improve it globally?
> Is there any way to fine tune horizontal position of the pedal indication?

I came up with:

    \override SustainPedal.X-offset = -1

which improves the situation globally, but doesn't avoid collisions in case
of denser pedaling like:

   s32*15\sustainOn s32\sustainOff s32*15\sustainOn s32\sustainOff

I can mitigate such issues by correcting X-offset manually then, e.g.:

    \once \override SustainPedal.X-offset = -2

(finding value looking appropriately in the context is trial and error
process, though)

If there is any smarter way, then I will replace it instantly.

Example of above workarounds:
http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mar
k-collision-workaround.pdf
http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mar
k-collision-workaround.ly

>
> Or maybe there is even a way to use some Scheme magic that would allow 
> writing simpler form (s1\sustainOff\sustainOn), yet modifying it for 
> MIDI (changing off placement by given duration, 32 in  the example)?

This would be super handy.

Regards.

--
Przemyslaw Pawelczyk
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