Re: Reversing order of colliding noteheads?

[Michael J. O'Donnell]

Thanks Abraham,

Solution 1, using NoteColumn.force-hshift, was just what I was looking
for, but couldn't find it in the manual until I knew the name of the
property.

In case anyone else is interested, it's in the manual at
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/learning/fixing-overlapping-notation#the-force_002dhshift-property

I tried the solution, and verified that the relevant word in the lyrics
moved along in alignment with the note, so it's a very robust method,
not leading to a cascade of other tweaks.

In case a LilyPond developer rethinks this some day, it would be nice
to be able to tweak a different horizontal order for colliding
noteheads without specifying the distance moved. Also, I would suggest
a policy of keeping tied notes contiguous. But these would be low
priority wishes.

Cheers,

Mike O'Donnell

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> Michael,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Michael J. O'Donnell [via Lilypond]
> < address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > In the following two-bar snippet, I used \voiceOne and \voiceTwo to
> > place Tenor and Lead vocal lines on a single staff. The Tenor has a
> > tied-over note, whose notehead collides at the beginning of the
> > second bar with the Lead note, one step away. LilyPond places the
> > Lead note inside of the Tenor tie, which I find rather hard to
> > read. I have tried \tieDown, which is a bit better but it has the
> > tie crossing through the Lead stem. It seems that the best layout
> > would have the Tenor note to the left of the Lead note, so that
> > there is no interleaving of Lead note inside the Tenor tie. I
> > cannot find a way to accomplish this with \voiceOne and \voiceTwo,
> > nor have I thought of another layout that would be readable. I
> > would prefer to avoid a change in the voice structure, which would
> > complicate the alignment with lyrics.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas,
> >
> 
> Here are a few ideas.
> 
> 1. Reposition the noteheads:
> 
> tenorPart = {
>   \voiceOne
>   r2 e'8
>     \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #0
>     c'4. ~ |
>   c'4. r8 f'2 |
> }
> 
> leadPart = {
>   \voiceTwo
>   e'2 c'2 |
>   \once \override NoteColumn.force-hshift = #2.3
>   d'2 a2 |
> }
> 
> 2. Change the vertical position of the tie:
> 
> tenorPart = {
>   \voiceOne
>   r2 e'8
>     \once \override Tie.staff-position = #3.5
>     c'4. ~ |
>   c'4. r8 f'2 |
> }
> 
> leadPart = {
>   \voiceTwo
>   e'2 c'2 |
>   d'2 a2 |
> }
> 
> 3. Increase the potential height of the tie:
> 
> tenorPart = {
>   \voiceOne
>   r2 e'8
>     \once \override Tie.details.height-limit = #2
>     c'4. ~ |
>   c'4. r8 f'2 |
> }
> 
> leadPart = {
>   \voiceTwo
>   e'2 c'2 |
>   d'2 a2 |
> }
> 
> Take your pick.
> 
> HTH,
> Abraham
> 
> 
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