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Re: Replying to posts


From: Andrew Bernard
Subject: Re: Replying to posts
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:03:41 +1000
User-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.15.1.160411

Hi Chris,

Although I started this thread, it was purely because David Wright had 
mentioned the difficulty to another user, as he had to me. I am not the one 
complaining! Wanting to be considerate of all folks on the list I took some 
effort to configure my Outlook in Office 365 to produce the correct output for 
HTML and plain text email with internet quoting style replies. It can certainly 
be done. There is no reason to ask people to stop using Outlook. What has 
changed is that its current default behaviour is the opposite of the past, and 
I was attempting to alert people to that. Even I was unaware.

As to plain text readers, it is a perfectly valid and viable choice. I know 
that David Wright uses Mutt which is a very capable and effective UNIX mail 
client. I am pretty sure that David Kastrup uses Emacs for email as he has 
mentioned issues relating to the way images are included in emails in the list 
which my impact emacs users. For people working in a technical environment on a 
UNIX platform using a principally text based workflow, text based email clients 
can be very effective and very efficient. There is no sense in which they are 
outdated. So there are at least two and likely many more significant 
contributors to the community using plain text toolchains.

Urs Liska has written at length on the strengths and advantages of a plain text 
toolchain for lilypond in particular. I can’t see how the concept is old 
fashioned, or that the world has ‘moved on’. When intensively developing in a 
text based toolchain, plain text mail clients can make a lot of sense.

In my opinion, internet etiquette would suggest that one be considerate of the 
community of mailing list users, and try to accomodate everyone as best one 
can. I can’t see why this is not desirable. Or perhaps I am completely 
obsolete, and etiquette in general is now considered old fashioned.

Andrew




On 27/04/2016, 8:30 PM, "Chris Yate" <address@hidden> wrote:


In my experience it is well-nigh impossible to make Outlook behave like that 
without screwing up the way it works* for "normal" email. It's better to just 
stop using Outlook. I find Gmail is generally sane, but it encourages things 
like inlining images (which I've been told off about here in the past). 

On the other hand, if one is still using Pine for reading email, I think it's 
their own fault if they can't read a message. The world has moved on, and so 
should our tools.







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