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Re: Added ninth chord (symbol)


From: Brett Duncan
Subject: Re: Added ninth chord (symbol)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 16:56:08 +1000
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 On 30/04/2016 3:24 pm, address@hidden wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016, Brett Duncan wrote:
      I coded g2:5.9 in chordmode and got G9, which isn't the right
      chord. I'm pursuing pop-chords.ly.

As Matthew said, you will need to override how the chord name is displayed,
but this (or Matthew's suggestion) at least constructs a chord with the
right notes.
We should probably step back and clarify what seems to be the real issue
every time someone asks about chord mode:

Chord mode is completely separate from typesetting chord names.

"Chord mode" is chord *input* mode.  When you enter a chord with chord
mode, it is immediately translated into a set of notes, and whatever code
you used to enter it is forgotten.  Then if you are typesetting chord
names, the chord names are determined by analysing that set of notes, not
by referring back to the forgotten input code. [*]
I  agree with you about clarifying what the actual issue is at the outset.

 I not sure that chord mode and the ChordNames context are as completely separate as you suggest, but IMO that's not really the issue. The problem lies in the fact that the default (Ignatzek) chord names are typically okay for only the simplest chords. The moment a user tries to input something more "complex" (not that an added ninth is particularly complex), what is generated is not what the user is after. I've seen plenty of messages on this list over the last decade or so complaining about this very fact.

I suspect many have done the same as me - created my own file of exceptions, added to it over time as need, and included it as a matter of routine. Which is fine for me and others doing the same, but leaves the unexpected Ignatzek defaults as an unhappy surprise for new users.

You can do both, and it sounds like that's what Henry actually wants.  His
initial question, which gave a bunch of examples of note sets and seemed
to imply he'd accept any syntax that generated the correct notes, made me
think it was a question primarily about input syntax.
I read it that way as well.

Henry, have you had any success with the pop-chords.ly file? (If not, I have some files I could send to you.)

Brett

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