Re: Augmentation dot positioning

[Chris Yate]

On 15 Sep 2016 14:27, "Carl Sorensen" <address@hidden> wrote:
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> On 9/14/16 9:05 AM, "Chris Yate" <address@hidden> wrote:
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> >Attached with some extra cases I'd forgotten about (the inverted versions
> >of the final 6.
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> According to Gould, I believe that dots limit 3 is the correct setting.
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> Case 1: Gould says that the dot in the A space is correct.  The only dots
> she removes are dots that are 2 staff spaces or more away from the chord
> (p. 56); the A space is only one staff space away.
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> Case 2: Similarly, the B space dot is correct according to Gould.
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> Case 9: Just as in case 2, the B space dot is correct.
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> Case 10: The C space dot is correct according to Gould -- one staff space
> above chord.
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> Case 12: See cases 2 and 9; B space dot is one staff space below chord
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> Case 13: I am unsure about the G dot -- it's one and a half staff spaces
> below the chord, so by Gould's strict rule, it should be there, I guess.
> But I prefer it gone.
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> Case 14: I'm not sure why you consider the A space dot unnecessary.
> According to Gould's rules, it should be there.
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> Case 15: Same as case 14.
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> Case 16: As in cases 2 and 9, Gould suggests the B space dot belongs.
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> Case 17: Same as 16
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> Case 18: Same as 16
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> Case 19: Same as 16
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> Case 20: Gould's rules say A space dot is correct.
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> Case 21: Same as 20
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> Case 23: Same as 16
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> Case 24: Gould's rules say G space dot is correct.
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> Case 25: Gould's rules say B space dot is correct.
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> In short, dots limit 3 never fails according to Chris's rules, and appears
> to me to be exactly correct with respect to Gould's rules.  So I have a
> hard time seeing what the issue is.
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> Thanks,
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> Carl

Carl, the key is the last bit of Gould's text as quoted by Brian above:

"When a dot is forced to be two or more stave-spaces from the chord, its function becomes less relevant. In such cases, use only as many dots as cover the number of stave-spaces taken up by the chord."

In my 30-odd years experience of reading music I don't think I've ever seen augmentation dots extending even a full space away from a chord (apart from moving a half-step above or below a line-note).

On 15 Sep 2016 14:27, "Carl Sorensen" <address@hidden> wrote:

On 9/14/16 9:05 AM, "Chris Yate" <address@hidden> wrote:
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>Attached with some extra cases I'd forgotten about (the inverted versions
>of the final 6.

According to Gould, I believe that dots limit 3 is the correct setting.

Case 1: Gould says that the dot in the A space is correct.  The only dots
she removes are dots that are 2 staff spaces or more away from the chord
(p. 56); the A space is only one staff space away.

Case 2: Similarly, the B space dot is correct according to Gould.

Case 9: Just as in case 2, the B space dot is correct.

Case 10: The C space dot is correct according to Gould -- one staff space
above chord.

Case 12: See cases 2 and 9; B space dot is one staff space below chord

Case 13: I am unsure about the G dot -- it's one and a half staff spaces
below the chord, so by Gould's strict rule, it should be there, I guess.
But I prefer it gone.

Case 14: I'm not sure why you consider the A space dot unnecessary.
According to Gould's rules, it should be there.

Case 15: Same as case 14.

Case 16: As in cases 2 and 9, Gould suggests the B space dot belongs.

Case 17: Same as 16

Case 18: Same as 16

Case 19: Same as 16

Case 20: Gould's rules say A space dot is correct.

Case 21: Same as 20

Case 23: Same as 16

Case 24: Gould's rules say G space dot is correct.

Case 25: Gould's rules say B space dot is correct.

In short, dots limit 3 never fails according to Chris's rules, and appears
to me to be exactly correct with respect to Gould's rules.  So I have a
hard time seeing what the issue is.

Thanks,

Carl