RE: Changing voice order...

[Mark Stephen Mrotek]

David,

If " Generally users don't know the proper order of voice arranging
commands" would that not be the fault of those who do not read the manual?
Those who have created Lilypond have my sincere respect. Lilypond is totally
beyond my ken (FORTRAN was my Master's requirement for a foreign language!).
As I mentioned, I can follow directions, and I assume that other uses can do
likewise.
I cannot conceive of the rationality of changing anything because some are
too busy to read the manual.
A specific "thank you" to you for your diligence in maintaining Lilypond.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: David Kastrup [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:13 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Changing voice order...

"Mark Stephen Mrotek" <address@hidden> writes:

> David,
>
> "If it ain't broke...."

Well, in this case, I consider it broken.  Generally users don't know the
proper order of voice arranging commands and of << ... \\ ... \\ ..... >>.

While I probably don't count as a frequent enough user, even I got the order
wrong in this discussion (telling Werner that it was inner-first).
That's a rather bad sign.

Now _you_ have actually built a creative workflow around LilyPond's current
order and thus gave it more sense than it inherently has.  And if we change
its behavior, you'll very likely get a command for invoking the current one.
We sort of owe you at least that much.  But at the same time I think we owe
newcomers a default behavior which makes it easier for them to get things
right without creating their own workflow around them.

--
David Kastrup