Re: Tie for segue at end of movement

[David Sumbler]

On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 15:18 +0000, Phil Holmes wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Sumbler" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 2:50 PM
> Subject: Tie for segue at end of movement
> > 
> > I have a piece with several movements. One of the movements is
> > marked 'segue' at the end, and finishes with a semibreve in each
> > instrument.  The note in the 2nd cello part is tied to the first
> > note of the next movement. Each movement is in a separate \score
> > block (both in the full score and in the parts).
> > 
> > I need a tie attached to the 2nd cello note which extends more or
> > less to the final barline.
> > 
> > I can get a satisfactory result by tying the last note to a hidden
> > note after the barline, but of course this means that the final
> > double bar of the movement then comes before the end of the stave.
> > I can use \stopStaff to avoid that, but then the staff is shorter
> > than the staves above it, which looks terrible.
> > 
> > The best answer I have come up with so far is
> > 
> > relative c, {
> > ef1*15/16 ~ \hideNotes ef16 \bar "||"
> > }
> > 
> > but I would prefer the tie to end closer to the final barline than
> > this method provides.
> > 
> > I also tried \once \override Tie.normalized-endpoints with various
> > values for the 2nd element of the pair, but it did not have any
> > effect.
> > 
> > How can I get the result I want?
> > 
> > David
> Can you use a laissez vibrer tie?

I didn't think to try, because I thought that they were just fixed-
length objects.  But it seems I was wrong.

On Mon, 2016-11-21 at 16:34 +0100, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> Your snippet does not compile.

Sorry - it should be as follows:

\version "2.19.48"

\language "english"

\relative c, { \clef "bass"
  ef1*15/16 ~ \hideNotes ef16 \bar "||"
}

> However, you can try: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=794
> 
> HTH.
> Cheers,
> Pierre

This is excellent, and solves the problem.  As I said above, I hadn't
thought of using an L.V. tie.

Although the problem is solved, it does mean that I have to put 2
different parameters in: one for the score, and one for the part.  What
would be even better (though I am happy with what we have) would be a
way of fixing the end-point of the slur to the barline, so that any
change in the width of the bar still gives the desired result.  Funny
how I always seem to be the guy who wants to be able to fix things in
relation to barlines!

Thanks, both, for your help, and to Harm of course for the Scheme
function.

David