Re: New LilyPond website

[John Roper]

Why specifically do we *need* to use textinfo? If I could make a new
system that would auto generate the docs that works with the current
system would you use it?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:23 PM, John Roper <address@hidden> wrote:
> What I had to do for the new design was create entirely new markup
> from scratch. If it is not possible to use that, we have no new
> design.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, John Roper <address@hidden> wrote:
>> So, does texinfo create all the markup and you add the styling, or do
>> you add some of the markup? If so, where is it?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:07 PM, John Roper <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> https://github.com/johnroper100/LilyPond-Web-Redesign
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:55 PM, John Roper <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> I am going to put the code in a GitHub repo for now so that I can keep 
>>>> track
>>>> of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 6:53 PM, "John Roper" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am prepared to take my design and start to convert it over to the text
>>>>> info generator (at least on the home page).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2016 6:29 PM, "Carl Sorensen" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/30/16 2:58 PM, "Noeck" <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >I was a bit disappointed that the suggestions have narrowed down so
>>>>>> >quickly to something so close to the old layout. But perhaps the chances
>>>>>> >are better to get somewhere from there than to have ~10 to quickly ~50
>>>>>> >completely different proposals.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's my view of the course of this discussion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) John came up with a Wordpress layout.  (I never saw that layout,
>>>>>> because it has been replaced with the new "just adjust the CSS" lilypond
>>>>>> example).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Some people expressed appreciation for the new layout; others
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> concerns about the technology.  John, in an impressive burst of work
>>>>>> created multiple versions responding to people's concerns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) Several users discussed preferences for the old design.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4) Some developers chimed in about the desire/necessity to keep the
>>>>>> website auto created and pointed out that it would be straightforward to
>>>>>> change the CSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5) John followed that lead and jumped in with changes to the CSS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems likely to me that we are not too far from having new CSS that
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be added to the LilyPond source to make some incremental, but significant
>>>>>> improvements to the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once John has worked on getting the new CSS implemented, he'll be in much
>>>>>> better shape to make recommendations for changes that are or can be made
>>>>>> consistent with our current infrastructure.  Such changes have a very
>>>>>> high
>>>>>> likelihood of implementation.  Since my time being involved with
>>>>>> LilyPond,
>>>>>> I can't remember a developer who proposed changes in the website that
>>>>>> could be implemented in our current framework failing to get those
>>>>>> changes
>>>>>> adopted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Changes that require shifting large parts of our current source (and by
>>>>>> that I mean documents, not code) to some different infrastructure will be
>>>>>> met with skepticism by the development community, I believe.  Someone who
>>>>>> wants to have such changes made will need to shoulder most (or all) of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> burden to make those changes.  But if someone is willing to do that, and
>>>>>> the new infrastructure will support our translation process as well or
>>>>>> better than our current infrastructure, I would expect those changes to
>>>>>> eventually be implemented.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope John doesn't feel like he's had a negative response.  I believe
>>>>>> he's had a response that points out the minefields he needs to avoid in
>>>>>> order to get the website changed.  And it looks to me like he's jumping
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> and navigating the minefields, which I think is great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carl
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> John Roper
>>> Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist
>>> Boston, MA USA
>>> http://jmroper.com/
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>> John Roper
>> Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist
>> Boston, MA USA
>> http://jmroper.com/
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> John Roper
> Freelance Developer and Simulation Artist
> Boston, MA USA
> http://jmroper.com/



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John Roper
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Boston, MA USA
http://jmroper.com/