Re: translations in new LilyPond website [WAS: Re: New LilyPond website]

[Paul]

On 02/22/2017 02:14 PM, Graham Percival wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:23:06AM -0500, Paul wrote:
> > What if we separated the design and implementation steps? First, come up
> > with a design that just uses css and simple html (nothing fancy, no library
> > dependencies, etc.), one that offers responsive design for smaller screens,
> > etc.
> That's more or less exactly the point behind [1]: work on the CSS
> without fussing about the underlying HTML.

Well, I think we are talking about two different points.  My point was 
to allow the html to be changed as well as the css -- in order to 
decouple the design process from the constraints of the build tools -- 
to allow John to design a website (with responsive design etc.) using 
his preferred tools (html, css), revising it until we are happy with it, 
and then port it to the current build system by converting the html to 
texinfo.

Are there reasons to constrain the website to the currently existing html?

I think it will be more difficult to successfully transition the site to 
an effective and well-implemented responsive design (that looks good on 
all screen sizes) if we restrict ourselves to only changing the css.  
And I don't think it's a bad thing if the site gets a redesign every 
decade or so.

> It resulted in one new
> LilyPond contributor [2], who began cleaning up the CSS.
>
> [1] https://github.com/gperciva/lilypond-web-css
> [2] 
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/lilypond.git/commit/?id=ca2a46da10e1f627b68e7243958749b8ec007f43
>
> Unfortunately, due to a combination of real-life problems and the
> threat of throwing away the existing website, her interest in
> working on this has dried up -- and I don't blame her in the
> least!  I'm waiting for things to calm down, and then maybe I can
> convince her to re-start.

That is unfortunate.  I also think it would be unfortunate to not take 
John up on his willingness to help us redesign the site and give it a 
responsive design.  My proposal is a way to make that possible by 
working around the impass created by the constraints and barriers to 
entry imposed by the build tools.

Cheers,
-Paul