Re: OT: Apple stealing "Lily"

[Robert Schmaus]

> Please cool down and stop overreacting.


Well your statement, which - very possibly without any bad intention - 
turned around the historical facts, so admirably matched that notion 
that occasionally pops up also on this list ... namely that notion that 
everything proprietary is an attack on one's freedom. And that *is* 
paranoid.

Nevertheless my response was meant mainly sarcastic. And you have to 
admit that your post was not at all uncertain - you were very positive 
in your statement ...


> W/r to your claim "...basically, Xerox sold Apple the concept in return
> for Apple shares...":
> In my book that's alternative facts. Being allowed to look at something
> does not exactly establish ownership, copyright, usage rights or even
> the right to copy something.
>
> The single correct part of that part of your statement is "...the Xerox
> management [...] completely failed to see the potential of a GUI"

I guess that's a pov issue. Jobs made a deal with Xerox to get 
information about the stuff they're developing. And (according to the 
account of one of the Xerox scientists) Jobs did not hide at all that he 
thought the concept to be a gold mine. (see here 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ferle2Uovks)
Still Xerox gave him access to a lot of details. Is that stealing? You 
tell me ...

And I suggest we either leave it at that or we take the conversation off 
the list.

Best,
Robert