Re: Place text next to rehearsal mark, or with left edge over barline if there is none

[Simon Albrecht]

On 09.07.2017 20:01, Wols Lists wrote:
> On 09/07/17 18:38, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> > On 09.07.2017 18:24, address@hidden wrote:
> > > As you can see on the screenshot, both texts are misaligned.
> > That’s your opinion.
> See below. The result can EASILY be unplayable music ...
What an exaggeration.
> > > The first one, a \tempo, is placed *under* the rehearsal mark instead
> > > of next to it.
> > Well, both are placed exactly according to standard conventions: the
> > center of the RehearsalMark aligned to the bar line, and the left edge
> > of the MetronomeMark aligned to the note at the same moment. And since
> > the former has a higher outside-staff-priority (see
> > <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/outside_002dstaff-objects>)
> > it is further away from the staff.
> The problem with this is firstly, it's horribly ugly and no real (i.e. a
> person) engraver would ever do this if he took any pride in his work,
>
> and secondly and far more importantly for me, it makes playing the music
> hard-to-impossible. What's the point of having sheet music if it's
> unplayable?

And why exactly would the effect be so disastrous? Because it gets a 
little more difficult to get good page turns?

> A real engraver who wanted to stick to those conventions would
> presumably shift the note to the right so it cleared the rehearsal mark
> and let the metronome mark drop down.

A real engraver would probably have shifted everything just a little so 
it fell in place looking like he had done nothing extraordinary at all. 
There are many things to be desired in LilyPond whose implementation 
would require algorithms much more sophisticated than those we have now. 
And until a crew of such genius to do that comes about, we have to live 
with making manual adjustments. That’s the point I was trying to make. 
It’s not like this could be fixed by changing a few settings.

Best, Simon