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Re: Auto-transposition


From: Neo Anderson
Subject: Re: Auto-transposition
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 22:04:51 +0000 (UTC)

Dear All,
Thank you all for your replies. I have surely known the issue was 100% my lack of knowledge of the program.
However, it's really hard to "cease bringing any questions about \relative to the list" if one of the very the first
things you learn about Lilypond is \relative mode - it certainly was mine experience with all the official
documentation.
Anyway, I'm thankful you've taken your time to solve my problem.

On Thursday, December 14, 2017, 1:29:22 AM GMT+1, Kieren MacMillan <address@hidden> wrote:


Hi David,

>> Because my only goal was to clarify for future readers of the list that "manipulations on stuff" are not the only thing that can cause headaches.
> I failed to see how cut and paste differed from manipulations on stuff.

I think of "manipulations on stuff" as being

foo = { stuff }
...
\transpose c d \foo
\foo \foo \foo
etc.

Cut and paste on the other hand, is this:

\relative {
  c'4 d e f g1  % a rising diatonic scale, starting on middle C
  g'4 f e d c1  % a falling diatonic scale, starting on the G a 12th above middle C
  %  now I want to reuse the rising diatonic scale… so I cut and paste the first line:
  c'4 d e f g1  % a rising diatonic scale, starting on middle C <-- FAIL!
}

>> For future list-readers: Using absolute and fixed entry modes allows you to avoid the issues/effort described by David.
> If people would only cease bringing any questions about \relative
> to the list, we'd be able to avoid this particular drum beat.

Agreed. But I would offer that the reason people (esp. newbies) continually bring questions about \relative to the list is because it's not as intuitive and "idiot-proof" as our documentation would suggest — which is precisely why I keep beating the drum, to try to keep people from making the same decade-long mistake that I did (which was to use \relative, as suggested/implied in the official documentation).

Cheers,
Kieren.

________________________________

Kieren MacMillan, composer
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: address@hidden



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