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Re: PDF woes


From: Travis Weller
Subject: Re: PDF woes
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:13:50 -0600

>> The link feature from the "Preview" app pointing back to the editor isn't working (it doesn't show an error message, just an 
>>audio alert sound instead of opening the editor at the correct point)

>This has in my experience never worked.  The Preview.app apparently has no way to communicate back to the editor.  It is an 
>exceedingly basic little application and philosophically Apple does not particularly like apps interacting and communicating with each 
>other.  If Acrobat works, then I would suggest using that.

Hi Tim,

The feature has worked wonderfully for me for many years. It uses PDF links that point to lilypond as a "helper app." I would guess I'm probably not the only one using it despite frescobaldi being popular. The change happened when I got a new computer.

The links work with Acrobat... and I'd happily use Acrobat, but as I mentioned before it is a "known issue" that it won't update the PDF file when you typeset repeatedly. The lilypond website says to use Preview.app.

Thanks,
Travis

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Tim McNamara <address@hidden> wrote:


> On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:46 PM, Travis Weller <address@hidden> wrote:

> I'm using the default editor which is included in the MacOS build of lilypond. I'm not using Frescobaldi.
>
> And yes, I've checked that I'm using preview mode. The links are there. I can see them when I mouse over, and they work in Acrobat. I've looked through all the options I can find in the Preview app and haven't seen anything that might be blocking the links. I'd use Acrobat if the PDF would update properly, but there is a disclaimer in the documentation that says only the Mac preview app will auto-update after you typeset the file.

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> On 18 January 2018 at 10:16, Travis Weller <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> The link feature from the "Preview" app pointing back to the editor isn't working (it doesn't show an error message, just an audio alert sound instead of opening the editor at the correct point)

This has in my experience never worked.  The Preview.app apparently has no way to communicate back to the editor.  It is an exceedingly basic little application and philosophically Apple does not particularly like apps interacting and communicating with each other.  If Acrobat works, then I would suggest using that.

Personally I switched to Frescobaldi several years ago and would never go back to dealing with the default Lilypond editor or Preview.app for engraving music.  With Frescobaldi my time spent putting charts together is easily cut in half.  The somewhat crude screen display is of no concern to me, only the printed output is.  That is the domain of Lilypond and is no different with Frescobaldi or another editor.

If you don't want to use Frescobaldi, would wonder if you would have better luck using an XWindow setup and more Unix tools, as those are designed to communicate with each other (xpdf, etc.).  I’ve never tried that myself.  Installing Lilypond via Homebrew or similar would result in that kind of system.
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