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Re: RE : RE : [lwip-users] Finding assigned IP address of device


From: Piero 74
Subject: Re: RE : RE : [lwip-users] Finding assigned IP address of device
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:46:08 +0100

but AFTER ip discovery, sw on pc have to use this ip for tcp connection.

i think if you use cable cross between two systems which have in general IP in different subnet, you cannot comunicate. I think it could works only if they have the same GW... but it will be a strange situation.

I said "but, using broadcast, the installer have to configure his laptop on the same subnet of board". It means configuration necessary AFTER ip discovery

2008/2/21, Frédéric BERNON <address@hidden>:
>but, using broadcast, the installer have to configure his laptop on the same subnet of board.
 
Why??? You can broadcast on 255.255.255.255, so, the installer doesn't have to be on the same subnet. Of course, your device should also reply on 255.255.255.255
 
 
 
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De : lwip-users-bounces+frederic.bernon=address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden] De la part de Piero 74
Envoyé : jeudi 21 février 2008 11:18
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Objet : Re: RE : [lwip-users] Finding assigned IP address of device

You are right... but, using broadcast, the installer have to configure his laptop on the same subnet of board.
Our goal is to give the possibility to have laptop (or, in the future, a tool) configured on fixed ip too (i.e. board fixed ip 192.168.0.1 - laptop ip 192.168.0.2) and the installer have only plug a cable... no network configuration is necessary. But the idea of broadcast could be additional!

Piero

2008/2/21, Frédéric BERNON <address@hidden>:
>So the maintenance engineer can use a cross cable and a laptop or can connect a laptop on the same hub of board (to avoid routers drops packet outside the familiy address)
 
So, in such configuration (a "direct" link), any broadcast detection protocol seems better than implementing a double netif on the same phy interface. Right?
 
 
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Envoyé : jeudi 21 février 2008 09:20
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Objet : Re: [lwip-users] Finding assigned IP address of device

In a lot of network, administrator configure router for dropping broadcast packet and allows only multicast!

For our customer needs, i decided to implement on my board (without user interface) the possibility to work with double netif on same phy interface: one using dhcp, and one using fixed IP in different family address configured in DHCP server (i.e. LAN uses 10.51.yy.xx and fixed IP is 192.168.0.1).
In this way, board could work as client using its dynamic ip, and act as server on fixed ip for maintenance reasons. So the maintenance engineer can use a cross cable and a laptop or can connect a laptop on the same hub of board (to avoid routers drops packet outside the familiy address)

We discussed about my idea here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lwip-devel/2008-02/msg00035.html

Piero

2008/2/20, Art R. <address@hidden>:

A simple but good way is to have the device do a UDP broadcast of whatever
you want know. It does mean that the PC would need software running on it to
receive the bcast and do what you want done.



Bill Auerbach wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> This may be straying off topic.  What methods can be used for a node
> connected to my lwIP-based device to be able to find out the IP address
> assigned by DHCP or AUTOIP?   I don't have a display on the device to know
> what the IP address is.  How can I let the PC wanting to connect to me
> know
> the assigned IP address?
>
>
>
> Thanks much!
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>

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