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Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?
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Lyndon Nerenberg |
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Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output? |
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Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:26:43 -0700 |
On 2012-11-03, at 4:33 PM, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> But it limits them to colour-setting terminfo entries. Surely the first
> step is to allow an arbitrary binary string through as it permits
> everything; the user can decide how to wangle what they want into the
> format file.
But you're still dealing with the issue of tracking the column counter. A
binary string can contain printable characters, and what's printable will vary
depending on the charset and current locale. Unless you can embed knowledge of
all locales and and all charsets into your binary putstring function, sooner or
later (sooner) it's going to get it wrong.
So stop pretending these are binary blobs and call them for what they are:
terminal-specific display attributes. As soon as you do that, the interface
and implementation become crystal clear.
Here are some other issues I have with the binary blob scheme:
1) What happens when I run scan on a terminal that doesn't support the colour
escape sequences? Do I have to specify a different format file when running on
a non-colour-aware terminal? What about a terminal emulator that uses
different escape sequences? This is poor user-interface design. Anything that
messes with the terminal attributes has to be smart enough to do the right
thing for the specific terminal type being spoken to. That's why we have
terminfo.
2) What happens to the terminal state when the program is interrupted in the
midst of printing to the terminal? You are potentially leaving the terminal
using a non-default colour scheme (which can be a pain to recover from), or
worse, you can leave the terminal completely locked up, recovery from which
might require blowing away they entire login session (think power cycling a
terminal on a serial port that uses full hardware handshaking, forcing a logout
when CD goes away). A binary blob emitter cannot know the state of the
terminal, so it can't recover intelligently. A purpose built formatter knows
the state of the terminal, and can register an atexit() handler that resets the
terminal's state if that's necessary.
> Patterns of usage that arise can have dedicated syntax if
> deemed popular enough, or is someone adds to the growing code base. :-)
Oh good grief! You can't tell me people don't know what the "useful" set of
terminal display attributes is :-P
--lyndon
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, (continued)
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Chris Garrigues, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Ken Hornstein, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Ralph Corderoy, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Paul Fox, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Ralph Corderoy, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Paul Fox, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Ken Hornstein, 2012/11/05
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Paul Fox, 2012/11/05
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Lyndon Nerenberg, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, Ralph Corderoy, 2012/11/03
- Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?,
Lyndon Nerenberg <=
Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, David Levine, 2012/11/02
Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, David Levine, 2012/11/02
Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, David Levine, 2012/11/02
Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, David Levine, 2012/11/03
Re: [Nmh-workers] colorized/highlighted scan output?, David Levine, 2012/11/04