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Re: Octave on Android


From: Corbin Champion
Subject: Re: Octave on Android
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:25:58 -0700

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Michael D. Godfrey <address@hidden> wrote:
On 10/31/2013 05:26 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 11:18 -0700, Corbin Champion wrote:

> I used to think of the body of people working on Free Software as a
> brotherhood working for the greater good of the user and the world,
> but after various encounters with zealots who miss the point, I am
> not sure.
I am sorry that this happened, but it's really just a
misunderstanding. I don't know if Thomas can withdraw his DMCA
takedown, but recall that he first sent the DMCA takedown, then while
that was going through, talked with you and us on the mailing list and then
decided that there was no violation at all. While this was happening,
his original DMCA claim was being processed and ultimately your work
was removed.

It should not have happened this way. Is it still possible to make
amends? I for one am very grateful for your work and still encourage
you to charge money for it.

> I have people from the GNU foundation telling me how to read word
> this or that and I have Landley and others encouraging me to not use
> the GPL license in the future, except where obsoletely necessary.
Please don't blame the GPL for this misunderstanding. It is a very
important and useful license in other situations, such as, for
example, if you had genuinely been doing this without distributing
source code and if you had been antagonistic to Octave. Please don't
feel burned by this experience. Your work was mistakenly identified as
infringing on the GPL, when it was not. This is all that happened.

On behalf of zealots everywhere, I apologise.

- Jordi G. H.


Corbin, Jordi, and all,

Mistakes like this happen.  People get upset and do things that are
not appropriate.  Sometimes, as in this case, they realize they made a
mistake, but the problem that they created is still a problem.

Corbin got it right in saying that he just preferred to do the work.
Let's go with that and put the rest aside.

And, I am impressed that Jordi will apologize for all the zealots...
Even though they are not all zealots, some are just a bit confused.

Anyhow, having Octave on Android is simply GREAT!

Michael


I agree with the fact that the DMCA complaint was filed before the facts were known, but I really don't know why that was the choice made.  I mainly posted, because I want people to understand (anyone who reads this now or in the future) that there is a better way to go about this.  Just talk to the developer.  Just ask for what you want. 

About amends, I have filed a rebuttal to the app being delisted.  I am not sure what the timeline is for processing it, or whether they will or will not contact Thomas again in that process, or whether they will or will not find things in my favor.  Never been in this rodeo.  I have provided a link to this thread and my source code and other information. 

Appreciate the support.  I am not feeling burned by this specifically, but by a generic behavior.  I forgive Thomas and I hope he forgives me.

Anyway, that is enough drama for this list.

Corbin 

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