Re: Contribution to Octave as a PM

[Philip Nienhuis]

Please don't top post. Answer below the mail:


Julien Hamilton wrote
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal
> <

> ajuanpi+dev@

> >wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Julien Hamilton
>> <

> julien.hamilton@

> > wrote:
>> > Hi Juan,
>> >
>> > I agree it should not be all about the money. I was just giving an
>> example
>> > where libre software can be created by paid developments.
>> >
>> > My idea here is to help to make Octave a little bit more popular and
>> > attractive to contributors, and not to go against GNU principles.
>> >
>> > JH
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal <
>> 

> ajuanpi+dev@

>>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM, fgnievinski &lt;

> fgnievinski@

> &gt;
>> wrote:
>> >> > Agreed; we could borrow from AOO:
>> >> > &lt;http://www.openoffice.org/why/&gt;
>> >> > "Great software; Easy to use; and it's free!"
>> >> > -F.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:33 AM, CdeMills [via Octave] <[hidden
>> email]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The opensource ecosystem is vast and diversified.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On the one hand, you're right that Octave could benefit from
>> funding.
>> >> >> OTOH, promoting Octave as the-poor-man  MatLab does not seems
>> adaquate
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> me. At first, we will appear as a MatLab concurrent, and as so will
>> >> >> become a
>> >> >> "target" for actions. Second, when I see students from countries
>> where
>> >> >> copyright laws are less enforced, they all have crackeds version of
>> >> >> you-just-name-it. They prefer to use some MatLab of dubious
>> ancestry
>> >> >> because
>> >> >> "it is standard". They mean it both ways: everybody write and
>> diffuse
>> >> >> code
>> >> >> in THIS language, and everybody crack it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I thus conclude that "money" should not be the only argument; we
>> should
>> >> >> agree on other metrics to promote actions around Octave.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >>
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>> >> I do not think this is exactly the message we want to highlight
>> >> "and it's free
>> >> Best of all, Apache OpenOffice can be downloaded and used entirely
>> >> free of any license fees."
>> >>
>> >> It is not best of all, it is a consequence of the other values we are
>> >> trying to promote: freedom.
>> >> I would not even highlight this point but the other advantages of
>> >> libre software.
>> >> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Julien,
>> Sure, and is great that people with your background join in. I fully
>> support your initiative. but I think is important to highlight this
>> little details earlier better than later.
>>
>> It would be awesome if at some point we could organize an Octave
>> contest...with prizes! :D
>>
> Haha why not Juan!
> 
> Yes it's always a challenge when you want to improve a software, making it
> more "corporate", but with staying with the basic principles. I was
> thinking about the fact that Octave offers functions to connect to the
> nonfree software Microsoft Excel.

What exactly do you mean by that?

Philip



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