On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Philip Nienhuis
<address@hidden> wrote:
Please don't top post. Answer below the mail:
Julien Hamilton wrote
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal
<
ajuanpi+dev@
>wrote:
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Julien Hamilton
<
julien.hamilton@
> wrote:
> Hi Juan,
>
> I agree it should not be all about the money. I was just
giving an
example
> where libre software can be created by paid developments.
>
> My idea here is to help to make Octave a little bit more
popular and
> attractive to contributors, and not to go against GNU
principles.
>
> JH
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal <
ajuanpi+dev@
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM, fgnievinski <
fgnievinski@
>
wrote:
>> > Agreed; we could borrow from AOO:
>> > <http://www.openoffice.org/why/> [1];
> "Great software; Easy to use; and it's free!"
>> > -F.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:33 AM, CdeMills [via Octave]
<[hidden
email]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The opensource ecosystem is vast and diversified.
>> >>
>> >> On the one hand, you're right that Octave could benefit
from
funding.
>> >> OTOH, promoting Octave as the-poor-man MatLab does not
seems
adaquate
>> >> to
>> >> me. At first, we will appear as a MatLab concurrent, and
as so will
>> >> become a
>> >> "target" for actions. Second, when I see students from
countries
where
>> >> copyright laws are less enforced, they all have crackeds
version of
>> >> you-just-name-it. They prefer to use some MatLab of
dubious
ancestry
>> >> because
>> >> "it is standard". They mean it both ways: everybody write
and
diffuse
>> >> code
>> >> in THIS language, and everybody crack it.
>> >>
>> >> I thus conclude that "money" should not be the only
argument; we
should
>> >> agree on other metrics to promote actions around Octave.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
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>> I do not think this is exactly the message we want to
highlight
>> "and it's free
>> Best of all, Apache OpenOffice can be downloaded and used
entirely
>> free of any license fees."
>>
>> It is not best of all, it is a consequence of the other
values we are
>> trying to promote: freedom.
>> I would not even highlight this point but the other
advantages of
>> libre software.
>>
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html [3]
>
>
Julien,
Sure, and is great that people with your background join in. I
fully
support your initiative. but I think is important to highlight
this
little details earlier better than later.
It would be awesome if at some point we could organize an Octave
contest...with prizes! :D
Haha why not Juan!
Yes it's always a challenge when you want to improve a software,
making it
more "corporate", but with staying with the basic principles. I
was
thinking about the fact that Octave offers functions to connect
to the
nonfree software Microsoft Excel.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Philip
Hi Philip,
I mean that according to the free software mouvement we should avoid
using *any* nonfree software. The fact that Octave offers an interface
to Excel can be see by some people as a contradiction to this
principle. Don't you think?