Re: Re: Octave 3.8.1 Released

[Nicholas Jankowski]

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: John W. Eaton <address@hidden>
>> To: Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden>
>> Cc: help-octave Octave <address@hidden>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 6:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Octave 3.8.1 Released
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>> On 03/08/2014 01:04 AM, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
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>>>  Why won't you post the list of changes between 3.8.0 and 3.8.1 in the
>> release note ?
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>> Check out a copy of the sources from the mercurial archive and you can
>> get a list of URLs for the bugs that were fixed by doing something like
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>>    hg log -b stable -r release-3-8-0:tip | sed -n 's,.*bug
>> #\([^)]*\).*,https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?\1,p' | sort -u
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>> jwe
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> Yes, John, I know how to write code in several programming languages.
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> Still, if I read a _text_ message written in _human_ language, I want to get 
> the needed info without any program.
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> Working for several companies in the industry I had to prepare release notes 
> explicitly stating what has changed and for what reason.
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> A lot of things in the human world is described by 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogo_%28comic_strip%29#.22We_have_met_the_enemy_and_he_is_us..22
>  - I mean a typical for FOSS zealots recommendation to read the code - the 
> recommendation being issued to non-technical users. To run 'hg' is the same 
> kind of recommendation.
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> And, by the way,
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> hg log -b stable -r release-3-8-0:tip | sed -n 's,.*bug  
> #\([^)]*\).*,https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?\1,p' | sort -u
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> was _not_ present in the release note. Which yet another time proves my point 
> that the release note is useless other than the fact that 3.8.0 was replaced 
> with 3.8.1.
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> Another issue - I do not use 'hg' revision/version control system and thus do 
> not have it installed. So, in order to obtain a meaningful release info I 
> first need to install a revision/version control system ?
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> Regards,
>   Sergei.
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HI!!   Welcome to the world of free open source software!  So glad you
could join us!  First things first, allow me to point out how great it
is that you're willing to help out on this project! We're really
excited to hear that you volunteered to compile a Release Notes list
from the list of corrected bugs that was provided in the thread
yesterday by "c." !!!1! Since we recognize the time and effort that
goes into making a complex software package as useful as Octave in
your free time, I can only say 'wow', it's great to have people like
you here to pitch in with the little things that bring it all
together! Especially something that fits so perfectly with your real
world expertise!!!! I'm sure once you get started on it the others
will be happy to review with editing/formatting/etc comments to help
get it up to snuff! I just can't express enough how excited I'm sure
we all are to see this happen, and all the thanks go to you!!!

So, THANKS!

Nick J.

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