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Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Enabling mobile devices


From: Dave Hall
Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-developers] Enabling mobile devices
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:57:41 +1000

On Fri, 2006-08-25 at 09:53 +0200, Sigurd Nes wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am thinking of making some part of the app 'property' supporting mobile 
> devices.
> The idea is to enabling simple access and the ability to take action to 
> people "on the run".
> 
> Any general interest in this feature ?
> As I see it - there is the WAP-standard (WML 1.1) - or a lean HTML - 
> depending on a S60 OSS Browser
> http://opensource.nokia.com/projects/S60browser/
> 
> Any advice ?

I would like to support xhtml with appropriate CSS stylesheets as most
mobile browsers (miniMo, opera mini, winCE IE) support this.
Unfortunately php's xslt engine doesn't support xslt 2 and so there is
no support for output="xhtml" :(

Go for WML if you want, I personally don't like WAP.  The only thing the
WAP browser on my phone does it look at my account usage online, the
rest of the time I use opera mini or my 3G data card :)

Again this raises the issue of our UI system.  It would be great if the
UI generation could be handled by the server, so it could work the best
way of rendering the UI based on the UA.  For example:

* legacy/text browser (lynx, w3m, old Netsacpe & old IE etc)
  - just do the old standard render and wait for GET/POST, 

* modern browser (fx, konq 3.3, IE6, O8.5, Safari 1.3 etc)
  - check for js being on and if so use AJAX to make things better

* mobile (various)
  - serve up a lightweight version which just does standard GET/POST

Anyway this is probably better a discussion to be held at the conf - I
booked my ticket today!.

Cheers

Dave 
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