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From: | Dan Kuykendall |
Subject: | Re: [Phpgroupware-users] hobby |
Date: | Wed, 01 Oct 2003 03:17:31 -0700 |
User-agent: | Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 |
You really do not understand Free Software/Open Source software at all.Do you think the Linux kernel was started and written to be a business application? Many who work on the kernel do as a hobby, including Linus up till very recently.
Linus has said may times that if the linux userbase went away, he would still continue working on the kernel because its fun to do.
Lets look at the GNU project. It was most certainly NOT started as a business solution. It was started as an alternative to closed source software that Stallman found offensive to his ideas of freedom.
Go look at freshmeat some time. There are litterally thousands of apps on there which are entirely hobby efforts, and some are actually pretty good.
What you quite seriously do not understand is that a userbase and business use is cool and is the focus of some, but not most of those who write free software. What happens is that these lowly hobbist take pride in what they write, and they often write very nice code and nice apps, which happen to be useful to other users and businesses. Then some people involved make the users and business the focus. But the hobbists remain and continue regardless of users, and they will have fun doing so.
One last note. Your attitude pretty much stinks. People have tried to help and you piss on them for not being able to explain simple things to an idot like yourself.
You obviously have your own issues to work out, so good luck with that.I will continue working on phpGW for myself, for my own hobby and enjoyment and go back to ignoring fools like you.
Dan Kuykendall Brian Connolly wrote:
Dan, If there was a single email that could discredit all the efforts of those who've worked tirelessly to make this a business application... Dan you just wrote it. If you guys cannot take yourself seriously, you cannot expect anyone else to. That's too bad. Regards, Brian -----Original Message-----From: Dan Kuykendall [mailto:address@hidden Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:57 PMTo: address@hidden; address@hidden Subject: Re: [Phpgroupware-users] open_basedir restriction Brian Connolly wrote:Remember, without users, phpgw is only a hobby.You say that as a bad thing.When jengo and I started phpGW and laid out the entire infastructure we did it completely as a hobby. Many of the initial development team worked on phpGW as a hobby, since none of us were being paid for any phpGW work, and to this day very few people involved make any money dev'ing it. In fact alot of the time "users" simply get in the way of the fun.Of course many involved are in fact focused on the user base, and making money working on phpGW, and the project benefits from this group as well. But dont go getting all pissy about the ***FREE*** help you are offered, and try and insinuate that phpGW is only a hobby without you. Because if thats the case, SO WHAT?Its nice that the world can benefit from what we started as a "hobby". Dan _______________________________________________ Phpgroupware-users mailing list address@hidden http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/phpgroupware-users
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