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Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: The QEMU Accelerator Module


From: Natalia Portillo
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: The QEMU Accelerator Module
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:48:45 +0000

Hi

You misunderstood me!

This comparison lacks a bit of knowledge about the license that QemuX is published with. See http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/.
Are you selling QemuX?
If yes, is it being sold as the "VirtualPC killer that runs under G5"?
If i don't remember bad, answers for both is not, so I'm not refering to QemuX, but to iEmulator and similars that ARE A QUICK AND DIRTY GUI for QEMU and are being sold without even showing the QEMU's copyright.

I've never said that VMWare is a GUI, I refered that in 5 minutes you could (if KQEMU wasn't in propietary license) write a quick and dirty GUI for KQEMU and sell it for the practically the same $$$ as VMWare and people will buy it, and what will you do?

and nor Fabrice nor other QEMU collaborators see money from that, like the WinZip program that is nothing but a commercial GUI for the Info-ZIP compression library.

I don't see any money from that, too. Of course if if ever get donations I will pass something to Fabrice, but my software is far away from being worth a donation ;-). Fabrice could at least stop this iEmulator thing by telling them to follow GPL/LGPL and publishing sources for their qemu version.
I think that their QEMU version is simply 0.6.0 untouched, I must check that more in deep.
And what if they don't want to follow GPL/LGPL?
Who will pay the lawyers?


Just imagine what will happen if someone takes KQEMU makes a dirty GUI and sells it. Just like the VMWare cost... Image how much could someone get from KQEMU just investing 5 minutes in a RAD enviroment, selling it and leaving Fabrice with NOTHING.

I must agree to Jean-Christian on that point, a GUI is not programmed in 5 minutes and all that qemu can earn for a GUI is publicity.
Do you know RealBASIC, Visual Studio .NET and other RAD (Rapid Application Developments)?

I wrote a GUI for ffmpeg in 5 minutes using them ;).

So definitly a GUI can be programmed in 5 minutes.

From a GUI QEMU will earn publicity, but from a GUI that is sold like an emulator, as iEmulator, it wont earn anything.


I think that the current Fabrice's movement is the correct one and I hope that a company will sponsor not only the KQEMU but the whole QEMU project as is the BEST and MOST COMPLETE non-old computer emulator, and also, its fast, and it's worth it.

There are a lot of companies interested in open source projects, like Novell, IBM, Apple, did anyone tried to contact them?

Regards,
Natalia Portillo

P.S.: Anand I think that your action of complaining Savannah could "hurt" (sorry I don't know the exact word) Fabrice and is based on another person's words, and is more a child's action than one from an adult. You should just have let Fabrice to see that he was breaking Savannah's rules.
P.S.2: Fabrice if you need a CVS server I offer my modest server.

These are my 2 eurocents ;)

El 12/02/2005, a las 6:14, Anand Kumria escribió:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:01:53 +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

Hi,

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Anand Kumria wrote:

Is it really fair to distribute a proprietary module from a free
software source code repository?

Is it really fair to expect others to work for nothing at all?


Are you actually this stupid?

Or is it that English isn't you native language and you've missed the
subtle point that qemu is breaking the rules of savannah by distributing a
binary module?

I was trying to be polite and subtle about it so that Fabrice could
consider his options and make a considered cautious move.

Anyway, because of your response, I've complained to the savannah
administrators.

No thanks to you.

Anand



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