Re: [Qemu-devel] Open Hack'Ware 0.4 release candidate

[Natalia Portillo]

Hi!

> > What you say about the BeOS:
> >
> > The BeOS kernel isn't in the ISO part of the CD-ROM, but in the Big
> > Endian BeFS part of it.
>
> I did not say the kernel was in the El-Torito image.
> I just said the CDROMs I got contain ISO filesystems.
It should have three tracks, one in HFS/ISO with El-Torito, one in 
little endian BeFS (BeOS/x86) and one in big endian BeFS (BeOS/PPC),
if not, the CD is incorrect.

> > The BeBox firmware understand this system and loads the PEFF kernel as
> > I commented you a time ago.
> > The BeOS Loader for MacOS seems to load the kernel from the BeFS also
> > and then let control to it removing MacOS from memory.
>
> I though I remembered booting directly BeOS CDROM on a Mac, but I may 
> be
> wrong on this point...
I don't think you got that, as the zbeos in the ISO/HFS partition seems 
to be a x86 executable (I should see this in more detail), and OF 
doesn't recognize BeFS.

> > For getting BeOS compatibility there are two ways:
> > First of all, emulate a BeBox. This shouldn't be a very hard way, as
> > the BeBox is simply a PReP machine with a lot of chips (SCSI, UARTs,
> > etc) and with an specific BIOS (I think, not similar to OpenFirmware 
> > at
> > any point).
> > Second of all, see how the BeOS Loader loads the kernel in a MacOS. 
> > The
> > loader don't like at all the software ROM, and probably ignores 
> > totally
> > OpenFirmware and relies to ToolBox to get loaded and then do hardware
> > probes (it does directly SCSI commands to load the system on a real
> > Macintosh.)
>
> For now, I'm not in a hurry to see BeOS booting...
> I just made a try and saw that it failed. Moreover, I think it would
> only boot on OldWorld Macs, that are not supported in qemu.
Yes, it will only boot on OldWorld, but also on BeBox (that are PReP 
machines).
There is one person interested on emulating a BeBox.
Do you think will be easy to add BeFS support to OHW using OpenBeOS or 
Linux's BeFS code?


> > About Windows NT did you get the kernel to load?
> > I have also 3.5 and 3.51 so I can help you also in this.
> >
> > About Pegasos and MorphOS did you pass ago the UART check we had
> > problems before?
>
> I did not tried hard to make MorphOs and NT boot in qemu.
> My first goals are to have all Linux kernel booting, then all BSD
> (including MacOS X).
> Feel free to make tries and add a new hardware target for Pegasos or
> make NT boot.
>
> > You know I offer my help for anything, and I have know more spare time
> > than before.
>
> If you'd like to make NT and/or MorphOs boot in qemu, I can give you
> support and add what's needed in OHW. It would be great if it works, 
> but
> it's not my priorities, there's still a lot of work to do before
> qemu-PPC / OHW can reasonably be considered as "production-ready"
> software for the end user.
Please do it, and if you can send me a binary qemu from the lastest CVS 
will be great.
I think NT should boot with only the support for the executable format, 
at least to a point that shows anything interesting on screen (surely a 
big blue screen of death xD).
MorphOS SHOULD work if we mix the qemu's PC emulation with OHW and 
PowerPC cpu, as Pegasos is a standard PC motherboard with an OF clone 
and a PowerPC G3/G4 chip.

If anyone in the list is interested on investing for Pegasos emulation 
I have a Pegasos board that only needs Registered PC-133 SDRAM and an 
ATX power supply to boot, and when booted, we can extract the fully 
hardware map and OF tree.

Regards

> > El 20/03/2005, a las 13:39, J. Mayer escribió:
> >
> > > I just released OHW-0.4-rc
> > > If no more regression is found, this will become the current version
> > > used in Qemu-PPC.
> > > Please try it and report unknown problems or successes, if any.
> > >
> > > You'll find the binary image here:
> > > <http://perso.magic.fr/l_indien/OpenHackWare/0.4/OpenHackWare-0.4-
> > > rc_bin.tar.bz2>
> > > the sources with subversion informations here:
> > > <http://perso.magic.fr/l_indien/OpenHackWare/0.4/OpenHackWare-0.4-
> > > rc_svn.tar.bz2>
> > > and the updated status here:
> > > <http://perso.magic.fr/l_indien/OpenHackWare/0.4/README>
>
> --
> J. Mayer <address@hidden>
> Never organized