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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Disk integrity in QEMU


From: Anthony Liguori
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Disk integrity in QEMU
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:11:54 -0500
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Avi Kivity wrote:
Given that we don't have a zero-copy implementation yet, it is
impossible to generate real performance data.

Which means that it's premature to suggest switching the default to O_DIRECT since it's not going to help right now. It can be revisited once we can do zero copy but again, I think it should be driven by actual performance data. My main point is that switching to O_DIRECT right now is only going to hurt performance for some users, and most likely help no one.

Now I don't have data that demonstrates how bad these effects are, but I
think there is sufficient arguments here to justify adding O_DIRECT.  I
intend to recommend O_DIRECT unless I see performance data that favours
O_DSYNC on real world scenarios that take into account bandwidth, cpu
utilization, and memory utilization (i.e. a 1G guest on a 32G host
running fio but not top doesn't count).

So you intend on recommending something that you don't think is going to improve performance today and you know in certain scenarios is going to decrease performance? That doesn't seem right :-)

I'm certainly open to changing the default once we get to a point where there's a demonstrable performance improvement from O_DIRECT but since I don't think it's a given that there will be, switching now seems like a premature optimization which has the side effect of reducing the performance of certain users. That seems like a Bad Thing to me.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori






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