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Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
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Jordan Justen |
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Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0 |
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Sat, 3 Oct 2009 15:13:08 -0700 |
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:40, ron minnich <address@hidden> wrote:
> I use qemu for a lot of coreboot work. I really depend on qemu for
> many things I do, not just coreboot related. The qemu target in
> coreboot has been very heavily used by us to test out new ideas.
>
> That said, I don't see a compelling need to augment seabios with
> coreboot on qemu *in the standard distribution*. If seabios gets the
> job done, and gets OSes booted, I think that's sufficient. I don't see
> a need to complicate anyone's life with something that is, after all,
> a sideshow for qemu users.
>
> Conversely, I don't see the need to add the huge pile of stuff that
> comes with UEFI/OVMF/whatever to qemu either. One might argue that
This is a valid argument right now. OS X is the only OS today that
targets UEFI, and specifically not legacy BIOS. But, in 5 ~ 10 years
that might not be the case.
I'll admit that this is a fairly dumb argument to make while we are
talking about a QEMU release only a few months from now. But, as UEFI
seems to be gaining ground in the industry, I think the sooner QEMU
can get this support, the better.
We're specifically trying to help out with this with OVMF. But if a
better solution is developed, then so be it.
> having any BIOS callbacks in the OS is a huge mistake, and certainly
> I've learned in practice that this argument is true.
I'm not going to take a side on this matter. But, I think what will
be more important is what is used in the majority of OS's and systems.
This is why we still put the 16-bit legacy BIOS as the #1 priority
after ~30 years. But, like I mention, I think there are signs that
this may shift towards UEFI at some point.
-Jordan
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Gleb Natapov, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Peter Stuge, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, ron minnich, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Gleb Natapov, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Peter Stuge, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Kevin O'Connor, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Gleb Natapov, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0,
Jordan Justen <=
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Stefan Reinauer, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Patrick Georgi, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Jordan Justen, 2009/10/03
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Anthony Liguori, 2009/10/04
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Natalia Portillo, 2009/10/04
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger, 2009/10/04
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Natalia Portillo, 2009/10/04
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger, 2009/10/04
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- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Natalia Portillo, 2009/10/04
- Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0, Lennart Sorensen, 2009/10/05