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Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm
From: |
Michael S. Tsirkin |
Subject: |
Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm |
Date: |
Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:51:01 +0200 |
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Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) |
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:49:40AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/14/2009 10:18 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> This might help 32 bit guests, but not guests with 64 bit
>>> kernel and 32 bit userspace (my case) because all 64 bit
>>> CPUs advertise syscall bit in cpuid. Thus 64 bit guests
>>> do not seem to even bother checking this bit:
>>> AMD + 64 bit -> syscall.
>>
>> Okay, I don't see a great option other than migrating the vendor_id
>> string.
>>
>
> That's not strictly necessary since the guest cannot change the vendor
> string; all the user has to do is to launch both guests with explicit
> vendor ids. Of course that imposes more on the user (or the management
> application).
>
>> Otherwise, cross vendor migration will not work by default. Maybe
>> that's not a problem but if so, we really should change the default
>> cpu model to be much more aggressive about exposing host features.
>
> Maybe we should make -cpu host the default. That will give the best
> performance for casual users, more testing for newer features, and will
> force management apps to treat migration much more seriously. The
> downside is that casual users upgrading their machines might experience
> issues with Windows. Feature compatibility is not just about migration.
This seems very aggressive. Can't we whitelist features that we know
about? Further, doesn't KVM already do this?
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Anthony Liguori, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Anthony Liguori, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Gleb Natapov, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm,
Michael S. Tsirkin <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Avi Kivity, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Alexander Graf, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Alexander Graf, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Gleb Natapov, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Alexander Graf, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Gleb Natapov, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Anthony Liguori, 2009/12/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm, Alexander Graf, 2009/12/20