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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with deli


From: Jan Kiszka
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFT][PATCH 07/15] qemu_irq: Add IRQ handlers with delivery feedback
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:54:26 +0200
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Gleb Natapov wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:31:06AM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Gleb Natapov wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:13:40PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> From: Jan Kiszka <address@hidden>
>>>>
>>>> This allows to communicate potential IRQ coalescing during delivery from
>>>> the sink back to the source. Targets that support IRQ coalescing
>>>> workarounds need to register handlers that return the appropriate
>>>> QEMU_IRQ_* code, and they have to propergate the code across all IRQ
>>>> redirections. If the IRQ source receives a QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED, it can
>>>> apply its workaround. If multiple sinks exist, the source may only
>>>> consider an IRQ coalesced if all other sinks either report
>>>> QEMU_IRQ_COALESCED as well or QEMU_IRQ_MASKED.
>>>>
>>> Well, almost two years passed since this approach was proposed first
>>> time[1] ;). Back then it generated bunch of nonsensical comments about
>>> real hardware not working this way, so the hack that we have now was
>>> introduce to overcome this resistance. I hope enough time passed for
>>> people to gain some sense and the approach will be adopted this time.
>>> Really this should have been done two year ago.
>>>
>>> [1] http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2008-06/msg00757.html
>> Yeah, I somehow had a vague feeling that there must have been an earlier
>> attempt. I think my approach could be a slightly easier to accept as it
>> does not require converting all platforms, but this can happen on demand
>> (or not at all).
> I proposed that too at some point (to lazy to look for it in archives
> and it was in words not patch). But since resistance to that approach
> from the beginning was baseless no sane arguments or compromises would
> help at that point.
> 
>>                   Moreover, I think that the third return state,
>> QEMU_IRQ_MASKED, is important for correct handling of multiple IRQ sinks.
> My patch had that too: <0 = coalesced, 0 = masked, >0=delivered

Oh, indeed! Good to see that we came up with the same logic.

> 
>> However, as I would see it now, we just have two options long term:
>>  - drop IRQ coalescing workarounds
>>  - properly support them via qemu_irq
>>
>> The current hack cannot stay. E.g., it does not scale because it depends
>> on a global variable of the APIC. So we would never able to protect the
>> APICs with individual locks.
>>
> Agree, and that was well understood at the time the hack was introduced.
> But we can't just drop RTC IRQ reinjectoin. It would be crippling of qemu.
> So we have only _one_ option:
>  - properly support them via qemu_irq

You won't hear me disagreeing.

Jan

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