Re: [Qemu-devel] Unmaintained QEMU builds

[Tristan Gingold]

On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Alexander Graf wrote:

> 
> On 07.09.2010, at 09:38, Tristan Gingold wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 05.09.2010 um 17:57 schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> 
>>>> On 09/05/2010 10:10 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>> As a baby step, is there any chance of publishing an automatic nightly 
>>>>>> Windows (cross-)build as a .zip file on qemu.org? That might give more 
>>>>>> users a chance of detecting runtime faults during the development cycle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's doable and useful, yes.
>>>> 
>>>> I doubt it's useful.
>>>> 
>>>> [...] We don't have myriads of users demanding better Windows support.  
>>>> Search the list, there's almost no one asking questions about Windows [...]
>>> 
>>> Right. There's some more recent posts on that QEMU forum, although buried 
>>> beneath a pile of spam.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, it's a chicken-and-egg problem. There's not much Win32 (nor Win64) 
>>> contributions, there's a guesstimated minor number of users. Many of us 
>>> including myself don't really care about the platform. When some Windows 
>>> user does show up and reports an error against QEMU Manager v7.0, we have 
>>> no clue what QEMU exactly that is based on, how it was compiled and whether 
>>> there may be downstream patches involved, so we're not of much help. Nobody 
>>> that I remember ever came up with git-bisect results to pinpoint where/how 
>>> their regression was introduced.
>> 
>> We use qemu on windows.  But in fact all our work is currently based on qemu 
>> 0.11.
>> 
>> But we don't use qemu like most of you: we mostly care about ppc, we don't 
>> care about the bios (we directly run our executables) and
>> we run without vga card (serial line is fine for us).  This configuration 
>> works (or maybe worked) pretty well.
> 
> Mind if I ask what exactly you're trying to emulate there?

Sure.  As a compiler vendor, we use qemu to do testing for our bare-board ppc 
compiler.
We also use qemu to run tests under vxworks 5, 6, 653 and mils.

> Alex
> 
>> When qemu 0.13 will be available, we will try to port our patchset on both 
>> 0.13 and head.  We also plan to submit some of our patches.
>> Then we will try to more closely follow the development.
> 
> That sounds great.
> 
> Overall, I think all we lack is someone who feels responsible for Windows. 
> And that person should be the maintainer and whenever something needs to be 
> done wrt Windows, it's his field. We do the same for BSD (blue swirl) and 
> pretty much OSX (Andreas and me). The real missing point here is someone who 
> feels responsible.

I see.

Tristan.