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Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog
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Kevin Wolf |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog |
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Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:57:41 +0200 |
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Am 22.10.2010 15:45, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> On a physical system, if you don't have a battery backed disk and you
>>> enable the WC on your disk, then even with cache=writethrough we're unsafe.
>>>
>> I don't think that's right. O_SYNC should guarantee that the volatile
>> disk cache is flushed.
>>
>
> If your filesystem does the right thing which an awful lot of them don't
> today.
The list of really relevant filesystems is rather short, though.
>>> Likewise, if you mount your filesystem with barrier=0, QEMU is unsafe.
>>>
>> Yeah, if you do something equivalent to cache=unsafe on a lower layer,
>> then qemu can't do much about it. Maybe you can apply the same argument
>> to NBD, even though it's unsafe by default.
>>
>>
>>> QEMU can't guarantee safety. The underlying storage needs to be
>>> configured correctly. As long as we're not introducing caching within
>>> QEMU, I don't think we should assume we're unsafe.
>>>
>>> Do we have any place where we can add docs on a per-block format basis?
>>> It would be good to at least mention for each block device how the
>>> backing storage needed to be configured for safety.
>>>
>> docs/block-protocols.txt?
>>
>
> Maybe docs/block/<name>.txt? Would be a good home for the qed spec too.
I think spec and documentation for users should be kept separate. I
thought that's the reason why docs/specs/ exists.
And if you exclude specs, I'm not sure if there's a lot left to say for
each format. Having ten files under docs/block/ which consist of two
lines each would be ridiculous. If contrary to my expectations we
actually do have content for it, docs/block/<name>.txt works for me as well.
Kevin
- [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Kevin Wolf, 2010/10/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Anthony Liguori, 2010/10/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Laurent Vivier, 2010/10/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Kevin Wolf, 2010/10/22
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Anthony Liguori, 2010/10/22
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Kevin Wolf, 2010/10/22
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Anthony Liguori, 2010/10/22
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog,
Kevin Wolf <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, Anthony Liguori, 2010/10/22
Re: [Qemu-devel] bdrv_flush for qemu block drivers nbd, rbd and sheepdog, MORITA Kazutaka, 2010/10/22
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