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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/11] AREG0 elimination


From: Aurelien Jarno
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/11] AREG0 elimination
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 16:06:16 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 05:02:37PM +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Aurelien Jarno <address@hidden> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 04:16:20PM +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 03:30:17PM +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Aurelien Jarno <address@hidden> wrote:
> >> >> > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:12:27PM +0300, Blue Swirl wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Aurelien Jarno <address@hidden> 
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > I still don't get where are this list of possible changes? Did I 
> >> >> >> > miss
> >> >> >> > something in another thread?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm referring to the patches I sent.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ok, patches 1, 2 and 4 to 7 looks ok at a first glance, though I think
> >> >> > patches 6 and 7 should be done for all hosts or none of them.
> >> >>
> >> >> The changes can be done in steps, but of course removing temp_buf from
> >> >> CPUState would need all targets to be converted first.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On the TCG generated code, the env structure is used almost for 
> >> >> >> > every
> >> >> >> > op, so it really makes sense to keep it in a register instead of 
> >> >> >> > having to
> >> >> >> > reload the address of env regularly from memory. Given it only 
> >> >> >> > affects
> >> >> >> > TCG generated code, I don't see the point of portability here.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> For example, maybe the bugs in Sparc glibc could be avoided by using
> >> >> >> one of %i set of registers (not accessible from helpers) for AREG0
> >> >> >> within generated code instead of %g registers which seem to be
> >> >> >> fragile.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > First of all, but it's a different subject, I am not sure there are
> >> >> > sparc glibc bugs, I'd rather says QEMU mis-uses some register. For
> >> >> > example the following code is probably wrong:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > /* Note: must be synced with dyngen-exec.h */
> >> >> > #ifdef CONFIG_SOLARIS
> >> >> > #define TCG_AREG0 TCG_REG_G2
> >> >> > #elif defined(__sparc_v9__)
> >> >> > #define TCG_AREG0 TCG_REG_G5
> >> >> > #else
> >> >> > #define TCG_AREG0 TCG_REG_G6
> >> >> > #endif
> >> >> >
> >> >> > __sparc_v9__ can set on the 32-bit ABI, when the compiler targets V8+,
> >> >> > so the condition is probably wrong there. Secondly the SPARC ABI [1] 
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > page 23 that %g5 to %g7 are reserved for system. I don't think QEMU 
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > the right to use this registers.
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, but the situation is not so nice. Please see this post for status
> >> >> as of 2010:
> >> >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/63610
> >> >>
> >> >> This is from Debian glibc 2.11.2-10:
> >> >> $ file /lib/libc-2.11.2.so
> >> >> /lib/libc-2.11.2.so: ELF 32-bit MSB shared object, SPARC32PLUS,
> >> >> version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux
> >> >> 2.6.18, stripped
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g1|wc -l
> >> >> 69648
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g2|wc -l
> >> >> 37299
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g3|wc -l
> >> >> 20635
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g4|wc -l
> >> >> 11603
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g5|wc -l
> >> >> 448
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g6|wc -l
> >> >> 150
> >> >> $ objdump -d /lib/libc.so.6 |grep %g7|wc -l
> >> >> 3052
> >> >>
> >> >> Glibc is compiled for Sparc32plus, so it should only use %g6 and %g7,
> >> >
> >> > From the calling convention point of view, sparc32 and sparc32plus are
> >> > the same ABI, so %g5 is also reserved for system use.
> >> >
> >> >> or %g1 and %g5 for scratch purposes. However, it is the application
> >> >> registers %g2 to %g4 that are used heaviest. Looking inside the
> >> >> objdump it's easy to see that the uses are not for example saving or
> >> >> restoring, but actually using them without saving the previous value
> >> >> first:
> >> >
> >> > Well, we have to define system and application. System is defined as
> >> > library in Chapter 6, and I don't see the libc there, and is probably
> >> > considered as part of the application.
> >>
> >> No, for example unistd.h is described and even X11. GCC also says that
> >> libraries should be compiled without using the registers:
> >>
> >> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.6.0/gcc/SPARC-Options.html#SPARC-Options
> >>
> >> >> 000211e0 <__divdi3>:
> >> >>    211e0:       9d e3 bf a0     save  %sp, -96, %sp
> >> >>    211e4:       90 10 00 18     mov  %i0, %o0
> >> >>    211e8:       92 10 00 19     mov  %i1, %o1
> >> >>    211ec:       94 10 00 1a     mov  %i2, %o2
> >> >>    211f0:       96 10 00 1b     mov  %i3, %o3
> >> >>    211f4:       80 a6 20 00     cmp  %i0, 0
> >> >>    211f8:       06 40 00 10     bl,pn   %icc, 21238 <__divdi3+0x58>
> >> >>    211fc:       a0 10 20 00     clr  %l0
> >> >>    21200:       80 a2 a0 00     cmp  %o2, 0
> >> >>    21204:       26 40 00 13     bl,a,pn   %icc, 21250 <__divdi3+0x70>
> >> >>    21208:       a0 38 00 10     xnor  %g0, %l0, %l0
> >> >>    2120c:       7f ff fe ed     call  20dc0 <__ashldi3+0x40>
> >> >>    21210:       98 10 20 00     clr  %o4
> >> >>    21214:       84 10 00 08     mov  %o0, %g2
> >> >>
> >> >> ...whoops...
> >> >>
> >> >>    21218:       80 a4 20 00     cmp  %l0, 0
> >> >>    2121c:       02 40 00 04     be,pn   %icc, 2122c <__divdi3+0x4c>
> >> >>    21220:       86 10 00 09     mov  %o1, %g3
> >> >>
> >> >> ...whoops...
> >> >>
> >> >>    21224:       86 a0 00 09     subcc  %g0, %o1, %g3
> >> >>    21228:       84 60 00 02     subc  %g0, %g2, %g2
> >> >>    2122c:       b2 10 00 03     mov  %g3, %i1
> >> >>    21230:       81 cf e0 08     rett  %i7 + 8
> >> >>    21234:       90 10 00 02     mov  %g2, %o0
> >> >>    21238:       92 a0 00 19     subcc  %g0, %i1, %o1
> >> >>    2123c:       90 60 00 18     subc  %g0, %i0, %o0
> >> >>    21240:       80 a2 a0 00     cmp  %o2, 0
> >> >>    21244:       16 4f ff f2     bge  %icc, 2120c <__divdi3+0x2c>
> >> >>    21248:       a0 10 3f ff     mov  -1, %l0
> >> >>    2124c:       a0 38 00 10     xnor  %g0, %l0, %l0
> >> >>    21250:       96 a0 00 0b     subcc  %g0, %o3, %o3
> >> >>    21254:       10 6f ff ee     b  %xcc, 2120c <__divdi3+0x2c>
> >> >>    21258:       94 60 00 0a     subc  %g0, %o2, %o2
> >> >>    2125c:       01 00 00 00     nop
> >> >>
> >> >> This is libc from OpenBSD/Sparc64 4.9:
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g1|wc -l
> >> >>    40562
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g2|wc -l
> >> >>    20384
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g3|wc -l
> >> >>    10240
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g4|wc -l
> >> >>     6606
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g5|wc -l
> >> >>     3811
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g6|wc -l
> >> >>        4
> >> >> $ objdump -d /usr/lib/libc.so.58.0 |grep %g7|wc -l
> >> >>       20
> >> >>
> >> >> Not so great there either.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Anyway, I don't see why keeping TCG_AREG0 inside the TCG generated 
> >> >> > code
> >> >> > would prevent you to use a register from the %i set for it.
> >> >>
> >> >> The helpers currently use global env register, but %i registers can't
> >> >> be accessed from the next level of function call nesting hierarchy so
> >> >> they can't be used for global env.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's the current situation yes. Using %i registers for TCG_AREG0 does
> >> > mean you can't use a global env register in the helpers, but it doesn't
> >> > mean that internal TCG code can't use them for TCG_AREG0.
> >>
> >> Exactly.
> >>
> >> > What I am telling you since the beginning is that:
> >> > - I have no objection that we stop using a fixed register in GCC
> >> >  generated code (that is completely removing HELPER_CFLAGS). However I
> >> >  don't really see the point of doing that, though the Sparc issue might
> >> >  be an argument.
> >> > - I do have objection to remove TCG_AREG0 from inside the TCG generated
> >> >  code, this register is used for almost every TCG op, and I don't see
> >> >  any real argument for not keeping it.
> >>
> >> I'm pretty much open at this point for all alternatives.
> >>
> >
> > So what about getting rid of TCG_AREG0 for GCC generated code only, at
> > least as a first step?
> >
> > So what about the following changes:
> > - Change TCG_AREG0 of all targets to a callee saved register (if
> >  possible, e.g. sparc)
> > - Change the prologue of all TCG targets to take env as an argument,
> >  and save it into TCG_AREG0.
> 
> This can be the first step.
> 
> > - Change all helpers to explicitly take an env pointer instead of using
> >  the fixed register. Note that it also includes softmmu helpers, but
> >  the TCG load/store instructions should be kept unchanged.
> 
> I think this step will lose performance slightly if TCG is not changed.

Agreed. What do you have in mind by "if TCG is not changed"?

> > - Remove HELPER_CFLAGS from makefiles when all helpers have been
> >  changed.
> 
> This should restore most of the performance loss from previous step,
> maybe even improve.
> 
> > - TCG_AREG0 can then be changed to another register if needed.
> 
> I'd combine this with callee saved register change. Anyway, at this
> point there should be a lot of flexibility with the register choice.
> 
> > And later we can do more steps to get a complete removal of TCG_AREG0,
> > including in TCG code, though I still think it is a really bad idea.
> 
> Maybe. At this point most of the hard work has been done, so it's
> possible to make experiments.

That's exactly my point. We more or less agree on previous step, not on
this one, so we will need to experiment for that.

-- 
Aurelien Jarno                          GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73
address@hidden                 http://www.aurel32.net



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