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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test ker
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Avi Kivity |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels |
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Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:56:36 +0200 |
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On 11/06/2011 03:06 PM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Avi Kivity <address@hidden> wrote:
> > You say that kvm-tool's scope is broader than Alex's script, therefore
> > the latter is pointless.
>
> I'm saying that Alex's script is pointless because it's not attempting
> to fix the real issues. For example, we're trying to make make it as
> easy as possible to setup a guest and to be able to access guest data
> from the host.
Have you tried virt-install/virt-manager?
> Alex's script is essentially just a simplified QEMU
> "front end" for kernel developers.
AFAIR it was based off a random Linus remark.
> That's why I feel it's a pointless thing to do.
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Avi Kivity <address@hidden> wrote:
> > You accept that qemu's scope is broader than kvm-tool (and is a
> > superset). That is why many people think kvm-tool is pointless.
>
> Sure. I think it's mostly people that are interested in non-Linux
> virtualization that think the KVM tool is a pointless project.
> However, some people (including myself) think the KVM tool is a more
> usable and hackable tool than QEMU for Linux virtualization.
More hackable, certainly, as any 20kloc project will be compared to a
700+kloc project with a long history. More usable, I really doubt
this. You take it for granted that people want to run their /boot
kernels in a guest, but in fact only kernel developers (and testers)
want this. The majority want the real guest kernel.
> The difference here is that although I feel Alex's script is a
> pointless project, I'm in no way opposed to merging it in the tree if
> people use it and it solves their problem. Some people seem to be
> violently opposed to merging the KVM tool and I'm having difficult
> time understanding why that is.
One of the reasons is that if it is merge, anyone with a #include
<linux/foo.h> will line up for the next merge window, wanting in. The
other is that anything in the Linux source tree might gain an unfair
advantage over out-of-tree projects (at least that's how I read Jan's
comment).
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels,
Avi Kivity <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Avi Kivity, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Anthony Liguori, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Anthony Liguori, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/07
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Ted Ts'o, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Pekka Enberg, 2011/11/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels, Ted Ts'o, 2011/11/06