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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Next gen kvm api


From: Anthony Liguori
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Next gen kvm api
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:19:56 -0600
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On 02/07/2012 10:02 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 02/07/2012 05:17 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 02/07/2012 06:03 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
On 02/06/2012 09:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:

I'm not so sure. ioeventfds and a future mmio-over-socketpair have to put the
kthread to sleep while it waits for the other end to process it. This is
effectively equivalent to a heavy weight exit. The difference in cost is
dropping to userspace which is really neglible these days (< 100 cycles).

On what machine did you measure these wonderful numbers?

A syscall is what I mean by "dropping to userspace", not the cost of a heavy
weight exit.

Ah. But then ioeventfd has that as well, unless the other end is in the kernel 
too.

Yes, that was my point exactly :-)

ioeventfd/mmio-over-socketpair to adifferent thread is not faster than a synchronous KVM_RUN + writing to an eventfd in userspace modulo a couple of cheap syscalls.

The exception is when the other end is in the kernel and there is magic optimizations (like there is today with ioeventfd).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


I think a heavy weight exit is still around a few thousand cycles.

Any nehalem class or better processor should have a syscall cost of around
that unless I'm wildly mistaken.


That's what I remember too.


But I agree a heavyweight exit is probably faster than a double context switch
on a remote core.

I meant, if you already need to take a heavyweight exit (and you do to
schedule something else on the core), than the only additional cost is taking
a syscall return to userspace *first* before scheduling another process. That
overhead is pretty low.

Yeah.





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