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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios
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malc |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios |
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Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:33:19 +0400 (MSK) |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 04/17/12 13:40, malc wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This patch series switches the vgabios binaries shipped by qemu from the
> >> lgpl'ed vgabios to the seabios version.
> >>
> >> There should be no guest-visible changes (especially no regressions) in
> >> theory. The only known (and intentional) exception is the vesa 2.0
> >> protected mode interface which is not implemented by the seavgabios.
> >
> > What's the reason for it not being done?
>
> In summary: Nontrivial effort for questionable gains.
It worked before, and it should continue to do so. Seabios not having a PM
interface is a regression.
>
> First, the lgpl'ed vgabios provides the vesa pmi for the bochs interface
> (-vga std) only, for the cirrus it is not available.
Well aware, Revision 1.48 has some comments.
>
> => It can't be a critical feature if our default vga is not supported.
Opinions are irrelevant, the feature was available before it should
continue to be available.
>
> Second, the display panning via vesa pmi was broken in qemu for three
> years(!) and nobody noticed. The linux kernel's vesafb can use the vesa
> pmi, it is disabled by default though due to bioses tending to be buggy.
> I'm not aware of other users.
>
> => Is this actually used by anyone? Seems not ...
It's used by me, when i feel nostalgic and want to watch old DOS stuff.
>
> Also it can be used by 32bit guests only while the x86 world moves to
> 64bit ...
You (plural) don't care about my use cases, i don't care about yours.
In a nutshell, i'm opposed to introduction of this since it breaks stuff
that works.
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- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/17
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Update vgabios binaries, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/17
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Switch isa vga to seavgabios too., Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/17
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Add seavgabios build rules to roms/Makefile, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, malc, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios,
malc <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Anthony Liguori, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, malc, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Anthony Liguori, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Stefan Weil, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Anthony Liguori, 2012/04/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/18
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Michael Tokarev, 2012/04/18
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Gerd Hoffmann, 2012/04/18
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, malc, 2012/04/18
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] switch to seavgabios, Kevin O'Connor, 2012/04/18