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[Qemu-devel] q35 machine type and libvirt.
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Laine Stump |
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[Qemu-devel] q35 machine type and libvirt. |
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Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:13:26 -0500 |
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Now that qemu is getting the q35 machine type, libvirt needs to support it.
As far as I understand, from libvirt's point of view, q35 is just another
x86_64 system, but with a different set of implicit devices, and possibly some
extra rules limiting which devices can be plugged into which bus/slot on the
guest. That means that in order to support it, we will need to recognize when a
q35-based machine type is being created, and auto-add all the implicit devices
to libvirt's config model for that domain, then pay attention to the extra
rules when assigning addresses for all the user-added devices.
We already add implicit controllers/devices for pc-based machine types; as a
matter of fact, currently, libvirt improperly assumes (for the purposes of
adding implicit devices) that *every* virtual machine is based on the "pc"
machine type (or rather it just doesn't pay attention), so it always adds all
the implicit devices for a pc machine type for every domain. This of course is
already incorrect for many (probably all?) non-x86 machine types, even before
we add q35 into the mix. To fix this, it might be reasonable (and arguably,
it's necessary to fix the problem in a backward-compatible manner) to just
setup a table of machinetype ==> implicit device lists, look up the machine
type in this table, and add the devices needed for that machine type. This goes
against libvirt's longstanding view of machinetype as being an opaque value
that it merely passes through to qemu, but it's manageable for the existing
machine types (even including q35), since it's a finite set. But it starts to
be a pain to maintain when you think about future additions - yet another case
where new functionality in qemu will require an update to libvirt before it can
be fully used via libvirt.
In the long term, it would be very useful / more easily maintainable to have a
qemu status command available via QMP which would return the list of implicit
devices (and their PCI addresses) for any requested machine type. It would be
necessary that this command be callable multiple times within a single
execution of qemu, giving it a different machinetype each time. This way
libvirt could first query the list of available machinetypes in this particular
qemu binary, then request the list of implicit devices for each machine type
(libvirt runs each available qemu binary *once* the first time it's requested,
and caches all such capabilities information so that it doesn't need to re-run
qemu again and again). My limited understanding of qemu's code is that qemu
itself doesn't have a table of this information as data, but instead has lines
of code that are executed to create it, thus making it impractical to provide
the list of devices for a machinetype without actually instantiating a machine
of that type. What's the feasibility of adding such a capability (and in the
process likely making the list of implicit devices in qemu itself table/data
driven rather than constructed with lines of code).
More questions:
1) It seems that the exact list of devices for the basic q35 machine type
hasn't been settled on yet, is that correct?
2) Are there other issues aside from implicit controller devices I need to
consider for q35? For example, are there any devices that (as I recall is the
case for some devices on "pc") may or may not be present, but if they are
present they are always at a particular PCI address (meaning that address must
be reserved)? I've also just learned that certain types of PCIe devices must be
plugged into certain locations on the guest bus? ("root complex" devices - is
there a good source of background info to learn the meaning of terms like that,
and the rules of engagement? libvirt will need to know/follow these rules.)
3) What new types of devices/controllers must be supported for a properly
functioning q35 machine?
- [Qemu-devel] q35 machine type and libvirt.,
Laine Stump <=