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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] Make qemu-io commands available in the mo


From: Kevin Wolf
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/16] Make qemu-io commands available in the monitor
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:49:55 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

Am 04.06.2013 um 14:40 hat Luiz Capitulino geschrieben:
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:08:23 +0200
> Kevin Wolf <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > Am 29.05.2013 um 19:51 hat Luiz Capitulino geschrieben:
> > > On Wed, 29 May 2013 10:13:42 +0200
> > > Kevin Wolf <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Am 28.05.2013 um 18:07 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> > > > > On 05/28/2013 09:27 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > > > > The QMP version is flagged with a __org.qemu.debug- prefix in order 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > reinforce the statement that qemu-io is for testing and debugging 
> > > > > > only,
> > > > > > with no API guarantees.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Correct use of naming conventions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm, I wonder if the recent addition of an 'abort' action to
> > > > > 'transaction' should be renamed __org.qemu.debug-abort, to make it
> > > > > obvious that it is another case of a QMP command useful mainly for
> > > > > testing, and not real-life use.
> > > > 
> > > > Makes sense to me.
> > > > 
> > > > But first I'd like to get Luiz's ack for this, because I think I'm the
> > > > first one to use an __org.qemu prefix, and I'm the first one trying to
> > > > introduce a QMP command without API stability.
> > > 
> > > I think that should be fine. However, it's not a perfect match for QMP
> > > as you don't expect mngt to use it anytime soon and that the command's
> > > syntax is not QMP friendly:
> > > 
> > > > { "execute": "__org.qemu.debug-qemu-io-command", "arguments":
> > > >     { "device": "ide0-hd0", "command": "write -P 0x12 4M 512k" } }
> > > 
> > > What about adding a HMP-only command (the good old way) and use it
> > > through human-monitor-command?
> > > 
> > > IMO, this matches better your current use-case and the API instability
> > > of the command.
> > 
> > Works for me, but wasn't the plan to make HMP purely a wrapper around
> > QMP? Then adding HMP-only commands would be counterproductive. So I
> > assumed that QMP is a must. I didn't even know that the code still
> > allows you to have HMP-only commands. :-)
> 
> Yes, the long term plan is to have all HMP commands calling QMP
> counterparts. But the command you're adding doesn't fit QMP's design
> very well.

It fits the design about as well as human-monitor-command. Both are
passthrough commands, one to HMP, the other one to qemu-io.

> I suggested adding it as HMP-only for now because it's the simplest
> thing to do for this very specific case.
> 
> If more test-only non-QMP-friendly commands appear, then we'll need
> to think of a more general solution.

What does "for now" mean, and what will the proper long-term solution
look like?

> Now, something has just occurred to me. Why isn't it a good idea having
> this command as a stable API? Wouldn't it be a good idea to allow
> out-of-tree test tools like autotest to use it?

Because qemu-io exposes internals of the block layer that we don't want
to make a stable API. Autotest can have test cases using this, but
they'd have to be against a specific qemu version.

> > So you prefer a respin with the QMP part dropped?
> 
> Yes.

Okay, I'll do that.

Kevin



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