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Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA
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Gerd Hoffmann |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA |
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Sat, 25 Jul 2015 11:49:59 +0200 |
Hi,
> > I agree. Also, as far as I understood Marc, his hope was that the fix to
> > halfway working VGA emulation would be virtio-gpu.
Note we have both virtio-vga and virtio-gpu-pci. virtio-vga has vga
compatibility built-in, otherwise the two are identical. virtio-gpu-pci
is enabled along with all other virtio drivers, so arm + aarch64 have
that already.
> 2) Use the fact that there is actually hardly any legacy for ARM VMs,
> and embrace paravirtualized devices entirely. We do it for disks,
> network interfaces. Why not display? Why not input?
We have both now (qemu 2.4+, linux 4.1+ for input, linux 4.2+ for gpu).
Works just fine on arm (tcg tested). aarch64 not yet (with vanilla
upstream linux kernel) due to lack of generic pci host support.
> Using VGA makes sense on x86 because this is a standard on that
> platform. Every system has one. You can't expect the same thing on ARM
> (evil persons would even say that you can't expect anything at all). So
> let's take this opportunity to use the best tool for the job. Virtio
> fits that bill pretty well apparently.
Big question is (a) whenever we need a firmware framebuffer and (b) how
to implement that best.
virtio-vga/virtio-gpu-pci in paravirt (native) mode requires the guest
explicitly request screen updates. There is no dirty page tracking, and
guest writes to memory do *not* magically appear on the screen. I don't
think implementing a EFI driver for that is going to fly.
virtio-vga in vga-compat mode uses a framebuffer with the usual dirty
tracking logic in pci bar 0 (simliar to stdvga). Which is exactly the
thing causing the cache coherency issues on aarch64 if I understand
things correctly. Programming (modesetting) works without legacy vga io
ports, you can use the mmio regs in pci bar 1 instead (applies to both
virtio-vga and stdvga btw), and QemuVideoDxe actually uses the mmio bar.
cheers,
Gerd
- [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Paolo Bonzini, 2015/07/11
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Gerd Hoffmann, 2015/07/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Laszlo Ersek, 2015/07/20
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Alexander Graf, 2015/07/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Laszlo Ersek, 2015/07/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Marc Zyngier, 2015/07/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA,
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Laszlo Ersek, 2015/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Peter Maydell, 2015/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Peter Maydell, 2015/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Laszlo Ersek, 2015/07/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] selecting VIRTIO_INPUT and VIRTIO_VGA, Marc Zyngier, 2015/07/27