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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] net/filter: Introduce a helper to ad


From: Hailiang Zhang
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] net/filter: Introduce a helper to add a filter to the netdev
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 18:41:48 +0800
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On 2016/2/1 17:49, Jason Wang wrote:


On 02/01/2016 05:39 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote:
On 2016/2/1 17:18, Jason Wang wrote:


On 02/01/2016 04:21 PM, Hailiang Zhang wrote:

Instead of this, I wonder maybe it's better to:

- store the default filter property into a pointer to string

Do you mean, pass a string parameter which stores the filter
property
instead of
assemble it in this helper ?

Yes. E.g just a global string which could be changed by any
subsystem.
E.g colo may change it to
"filter-buffer,interval=0,status=disable". But
filter ids need to be generated automatically.


Got it. Then we don't need the global default_netfilter_type[] in
patch 5,
Just use this global string instead ?


- colo code may change the pointer to
"filter-buffer,status=disable"


Then, there's no need for lots of codes above:
- no need a "is_default" parameter in netdev_add_filter which
does not
scale consider we may want to have more property in the future
- no need to hacking like "qemu_filter_opts"

Yes, we can use qemu_find_opts("object") instead of it.

- no need to have a special flag like "is_default"


But we have to distinguish the default filter from the common
filter, use the name (id) to distinguish it ?

What's the reason that you want to distinguish default filters from
others?


The default filters will be used by COLO or MC, (In COLO, we will
use it
to control packets buffering/releasing).
For COLO, we don't want to control (use) other filters that added by
users.

I think Jason's point is that COLO is a manager, you can add the
filter
to netdev when doing COLO, so the only difference between COLO's
default

Er, then we came back to the original question, 'is it necessary to
add each netdev
a default filter ?'

The question could be extended to:

1) Do we need a default filter? I think the answer is yes, but of course
COLO can work even without this.

Yes, after colo-proxy is realized, we can switch to colo-proxy
(It should have the capability of buffer and release packets directly).
But for now, we want to merge COLO prototype without colo-proxy, the COLO
prototype should have the basic capability.

Right, I see.

Just like Remus or
Micro-checkpointing. It is based on the default buffer-filter to
control net
packets.

2) Do we want to implement COLO on top of default filter? If yes, as you
suggest, we may record the ids of the default filter and do what ever we

Yes, we need it.

Or just as I reply, all buffer filters (with zero interval) could be
tracked by itself. So as you see, several ways could go. It's your call
to choose one of them.


OK, got it.


what. If not, COLO need codes to go through each netdev and add filter
itself (hotplug is not supported). Or you want management to do this,
then even hotplug could be supported.


We also want to support hotplug during VM is in COLO state in the future.
(For this point, I'm not quite sure if this usage case is really exist.)

Thanks,
Hailiang

Support hotplug should be useful I think. But I'm also ok if you don't
want to consider for it now.


Thanks very much.

Hailiang





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