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Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken?
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken? |
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Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:42:33 +0100 |
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* Kirill A. Shutemov (address@hidden) wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 12:22:30PM -0400, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > Adding linux-mm too,
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 01:34:41PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > * Andrea Arcangeli (address@hidden) wrote:
> > >
> > > > The next suspect is the massive THP refcounting change that went
> > > > upstream recently:
> > >
> > > > As further debug hint, can you try to disable THP and see if that
> > > > makes the problem go away?
> > >
> > > Yep, this seems to be the problem (cc'ing in Kirill).
> > >
> > > 122afea9626ab3f717b250a8dd3d5ebf57cdb56c - works (just before Kirill
> > > disables THP)
> > > 61f5d698cc97600e813ca5cf8e449b1ea1c11492 - breaks (when THP is reenabled)
> > >
> > > It's pretty reliable; as you say disabling THP makes it work again
> > > and putting it back to THP/madvise mode makes it break. And you need
> > > to test on a machine with some free ram to make sure THP has a chance
> > > to have happened.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure of all of the rework that happened in that series,
> > > but my reading of it is that splitting of THP pages gets deferred;
> > > so I wonder if when I do the madvise to turn THP off, if it's actually
> > > still got THP pages and thus we end up with a whole THP mapped
> > > when I'm expecting to be userfaulting those pages.
> >
> > Good thing at least I didn't make UFFDIO_COPY THP aware yet so there's
> > less variables (as no user was interested to handle userfaults at THP
> > granularity yet, and from userland such an improvement would be
> > completely invisible in terms of API, so if an user starts doing that
> > we can just optimize the kernel for it, criu restore could do that as
> > the faults will come from disk-I/O, when network is involved THP
> > userfaults wouldn't have a great tradeoff with regard to the increased
> > fault latency).
> >
> > I suspect there is an handle_userfault missing somewhere in connection
> > with trans_huge_pmd splits (not anymore THP splits) that you're doing
> > with MADV_DONTNEED to zap those pages in the destination that got
> > redirtied in source during the last precopy stage. Or more simply
> > MADV_DONTNEED isn't zapping all the right ptes after the trans huge
> > pmd got splitted.
> >
> > The fact the page isn't splitted shouldn't matter too much, all we care
> > about is the pte triggers handle_userfault after MADV_DONTNEED.
> >
> > The userfaultfd testcase in the kernel isn't exercising this case
> > unfortunately, that should probably be improved too, so there is a
> > simpler way to reproduce than running precopy before postcopy in qemu.
>
> I've tested current Linus' tree and v4.5 using qemu postcopy test case for
> both x86-64 and i386 and it never failed for me:
>
> /x86_64/postcopy: first_byte = 7e last_byte = 7d hit_edge = 1 OK
> OK
> /i386/postcopy: first_byte = f6 last_byte = f5 hit_edge = 1 OK
> OK
>
> I've run it directly, setting relevant QTEST_QEMU_BINARY.
Interesting; it's failing reliably for me - but only with a reasonably
freshly booted machine (so that the pages get THPd).
Dave
>
> --
> Kirill A. Shutemov
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / address@hidden / Manchester, UK
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken?, Li, Liang Z, 2016/04/12
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken?, Andrea Arcangeli, 2016/04/13
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- Re: [Qemu-devel] post-copy is broken?, Andrea Arcangeli, 2016/04/14
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