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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentati


From: Lluís Vilanova
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 18:10:25 +0300
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Stefan Hajnoczi writes:

> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:45:35PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:33:01PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> > On 27 July 2017 at 16:21, Daniel P. Berrange <address@hidden> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:54:29AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> > >> That said, yes, I was going to ask if we could do this via
>> > >> leveraging the tracepoint infrastructure and whatever scripting
>> > >> facilities it provides. Are there any good worked examples of
>> > >> this sort of thing? Can you do it as an ordinary non-root user?
>> > >
>> > > Do you have a particular thing you'd like to see an example of ?
>> > >
>> > > To dynamically probe a function which doesn't have a tracepoint
>> > > defined you can do:
>> > >
>> > > probe process("/usr/bin/qemu-x86_64").function("helper_syscall") {
>> > >   printf("syscall stasrt\n")
>> > > }
>> > >
>> > > but getting access to the function args is not as easy as with
>> > > pre-defined tracepoints.
>> > 
>> > How do I go about actually running that script? What I
>> > have in mind by "worked example" is something like a blog
>> > post that says "ok, here's a problem, we want to find out
>> > what QEMU is doing in situation X, here's how you do this
>> > with $TRACING_THINGY" and generally steps you through how
>> > it works assuming you know nothing at all about whatever
>> > the tracing facility you're using is.
>> 
>> Ok, so something like this example that I wrote for libvirt a
>> while back then
>> 
>> https://www.berrange.com/posts/2011/11/30/watching-the-libvirt-rpc-protocol-using-systemtap/
>> 
>> 
>> > > You can't typically run this as root,
>> > 
>> > Do you mean "non-root" ?
>> 
>> Sigh, yes, of course.
>> 
>> > > however, I don't think that's a
>> > > huge issue, because most QEMU deployments are not running as your own
>> > > user account anyway, so you can't directly interact with them no
>> > > matter what.
>> > 
>> > It is important, because almost all uses of TCG QEMU are
>> > running it from the command line as non-root normal users,
>> > especially if they're trying to debug what's going on with a
>> > guest binary. So any tracing solution for this kind of usecase
>> > must work without requiring root access, I think.
>> 
>> None of the Linux integrated tracing tools allow direct non-root access
>> afaik. systemtap has ability to launch probes as non-root, via a privileged
>> daemon, but it is restricted to probe scripts that the administrator has
>> pre-defined.

> One exception is gdb's static userspace probes support.  If you can run
> gdb on QEMU then you can trace the same events as SystemTap.  I have
> never tried this GDB feature:

>   https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Static-Probe-Points.html

> It should work out of the box if your distro builds QEMU with the
> 'dtrace' backend enabled.

I tried it once long time ago and didn't work for me. Maybe I just missed
something.


Lluis



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