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Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-web PATCH] Add a blog post documenting Spectre/Me


From: Cornelia Huck
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu-web PATCH] Add a blog post documenting Spectre/Meltdown options for QEMU 2.11.1
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 10:11:28 +0100

On Tue, 13 Feb 2018 18:11:05 -0600
Michael Roth <address@hidden> wrote:

> This blog entry is intended as a follow-up to the original entry in
> January regarding Spectre/Meltdown and the proposed changes to address
> them in the upcoming 2.11.1 release.
> 
> This entry is meant to accompany the 2.11.1 release (planned for
> 2018-02-14) and document how to make use of the new options for
> various architectures.
> 
> Cc: Eduardo Habkost <address@hidden>
> Cc: Paolo Bonzini <address@hidden>
> Cc: Peter Maydell <address@hidden>
> Cc: Suraj Jitindar Singh <address@hidden>
> Cc: David Gibson <address@hidden>
> Cc: Christian Borntraeger <address@hidden>
> Cc: Cornelia Huck <address@hidden>
> Cc: Thomas Huth <address@hidden>
> Signed-off-by: Michael Roth <address@hidden>
> ---
> 
> The pseries/s390 bits have gotten some initial review (thanks 
> Suraj/Christian),
> but it can definitely use some additional review on the x86 side of things.
> 
> Also, Peter if think anything extra should to be mentioned on the ARM side 
> just
> let me know what to add.
> 
>  .../2018-02-14-qemu-2-11-1-and-spectre-update.md   | 180 
> +++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 180 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 _posts/2018-02-14-qemu-2-11-1-and-spectre-update.md

[some comments/questions regarding s390 cpu models, adding DavidH on cc:]

> +## enabling mitigations for s390 KVM guests
> +
> +For s390 guests there are 2 CPU options relating to Spectre/Meltdown:

s/options/feature bits/ ?

> +
> +* bpb: Branch prediction blocking
> +* ppa15: PPA15 is installed
> +
> +**bpb** requires a host kernel patched with:
> +
> +    commit 35b3fde6203b932b2b1a5b53b3d8808abc9c4f60
> +    KVM: s390: wire up bpb feature
> +
> +and both **bpb** and **ppa15** require a firmware with the appropriate 
> support
> +level as well as guest kernel patches to enable the functionality within
> +guests. Please check with your distro/vendor to confirm.
> +
> +Both **bpb** and **ppa15** are enabled by default with newer/patched host
> +kernels, and can also be set manually. For example:
> +
> +    qemu-system-s390x -M s390-ccw-virtio-2.11 ... \
> +      -cpu zEC12,bpb=on,ppa15=on 

Do we also want to add that bpb/ppa15 are on if you use the _full_
model (as opposed to the _base_ model)? Or is this going into too much
detail about the cpu model?

> +
> +WRT to migration, enabling **bpb** requires the source/target also have 
> **bpb**

Either "WRT migration", or "With regard to migration" :)

> +enabled. Since this is enabled by default, you must ensure that **bpb**=off 
> if
> +you wish to maintain migration compatibility with existing guests, or take
> +steps to reboot guests with **bpb** enabled prior to migrating them.

This paragraph confuses me a bit. Both bpb and ppa15 are guest visible,
aren't they?



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