[Savannah-cvs] [ListHelperAntiSpam] (edit) more about nongnu.org vs. gnu.org, and listhelper vs. listhelper-moderate

[karlberry]

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-very-conservatively-configured spamassassin, and 95+% of spam will be
conservatively-configured spamassassin, and 95+% of spam will be

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-The process does not affect messages from members and approved
The process does not affect messages from approved members and other approved

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-The system was set up by Bob Proulx (address@hidden), with kibitzing
-from Karl Berry (address@hidden). Oleg Katsitadze <address@hidden> helps in 
processing. We attempt to review both the spam
-and nonspam that goes through the system, to try to catch misclassified
-messages.  (Very very few real messages are classified as spam; the other 
direction is naturally somewhat less precise.)  Stats at 
http://www.proulx.com/mlmgr/stats.
The system was set up by Bob Proulx, with kibitzing from Karl Berry and Oleg 
Katsitadze.  We all attempt to review both the spam and nonspam that goes 
through the system, to try to catch misclassified messages.  (Very few real 
messages are classified as spam; the other direction is naturally somewhat less 
precise.)  Stats at http://www.proulx.com/mlmgr/stats.

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-Shared moderation: lists can use address@hidden as an administrator or 
moderator.  That group is intended to share the moderation load.  There is a 
cron entry (for user list) which runs ~/bin/lmpending, which eventually creates 
a web page currently at http://freefriends.org/~listhelper/moderate, which 
lists the lists with recent pending messages.  (There are many other cron 
entries which are a standard part of mailman installation; list and mailman 
have the same uid.)
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-Sometimes we use address@hidden as the public administrator name, to avoid 
some spam.  Hopefully users will know what to do.
Shared moderation: lists @(non)gnu.org can use address@hidden as an 
administrator or moderator to help spreadthe moderation load.  There is a cron 
entry (for user `list') which runs ~/bin/lmpending, which eventually creates a 
web page currently at http://freefriends.org/~listhelper/moderate, which lists 
the lists with recent pending messages.  (There are many other cron entries 
which are a standard part of mailman installation; list and mailman have the 
same uid.)

There is no difference between listhelper[-moderate] @gnu.org and @nongnu.org.  
We tend to use @gnu.org for GNU lists and @nongnu.org for non-GNU lists, but it 
makes no practical difference.

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-(*) Actually, the listhelper system is not tied to gnu.org in any way.
The home page for listhelper is http://listhelper.nongnu.org.

(*) Actually, the spam removal via listhelper@ is not tied to gnu.org in any 
way.

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-If you'd like to do that, email us.
If you'd like to do that, email us.  On the other hand, the shared moderation 
help via listhelper-moderate requires a script and cron job on the target 
system.

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-(***) Setting default_member_moderation=yes defeats smart spammers 
(***) Setting default_member_moderation=yes protects against the spammers 

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-  (The exception list is embodied in the script
-  ~/bin/oldestheld on lists.)
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  The exception list is implemented in the script
  ~/bin/oldestheld on lists.


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