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[Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah
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planet10 |
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[Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org |
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Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:25:56 -0800 (PST) |
> Imagine that a so-called must-have apps make a deal with ATI and NVIDIA:
> if they free their drivers, the game will use their drivers.
>
> The game is so amazing that both companies want people to buy their
> cards to be able to play the game in a decent way.
> If one of the company do not free their code, people will only buy the
> other one's cards.
What you don't get is that the game uses libGL.so. Whatever the user has
installed gets used. The game can't avoid their drivers; only the user
can do that.
The game is also going to be hard-pressed to be graphically amazing when
it's stuck using the free drivers which implement the feature set of two
generations back.
> What you call pressuring is sticking to a policy far from being
> new. The purpose of Savannah is explicitely detailled. If you want the
> GNU project to work on convincing particular companies, this is not
> the right mailing-list.
Perhaps I'm confused because of your gnu.org e-mail address. I assumed
Savannah was run on behalf of the GNU project.
So I assumed that I was communicating with someone who has influence with
Savannah, and (to some degree) GNU. Since you started e-mailing me, I
assumed that you would be a good sounding board to see if I could convince
a strict Free Software advocate that cutting-edge free 3D games could also
help the state of free 3D drivers.
(Of course, it turns out you use proprietary drivers on Windows to play
3D games, but hey...)
> There's one suggestion in my message (making a deal). I'm not saying
> that an easy job but that's a suggestion coherent from the GNU
> position, I think.
"Making a deal" would be great. I'd just like to see it be something that
actually makes sense.
> You may agree or not, you just have to accept that the way Savannah
> run.
Of course it's your ship, it's just kind of a strange situation not to
host a project that's licensed under the GNU GPL, due to an unfortunate
technicality.
> Finally, your problem is not specific with the Savannah position but
> with the GNU project position. You should write your concern to
> address@hidden instead.
Savannah is the host, so that's the first step. I assumed you had a
certain amount of discretion. Since you already disagree with my
position, does it matter if I talk to GNU? Would even a signed, stamped
letter from RMS change your mind?
Anyway, I don't have a problem with the FSF's viewpoint, or I wouldn't
write free software.
I don't know what's going on right now, maybe the FSF is already talking
to NVidia and ATI.
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, (continued)
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Rudy Gevaert, 2003/02/22
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Jaime E . Villate, 2003/02/25
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/25
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/25
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/25
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org,
planet10 <=
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Jaime E. Villate, 2003/02/26
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, planet10, 2003/02/26
- [Savannah-hackers] Re: submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Mathieu Roy, 2003/02/26
- Re: [Savannah-hackers] submission of Waves, Clouds, and Sand - savannah.nongnu.org, Jaime E. Villate, 2003/02/26