[Swarm-Support] Village inquiries

[Tim Kohler]

Hi everyone. "Village" is under very active development right now with  
people here at Washington State and at Wayne State busily modifying it.  
We are all just back from a conference at the Society for American  
Archaeology in Montreal where we gave papers about our progress. The  
current round of work is also in collaboration with the Crow Canyon  
Archaeological Center (for help with empirical validation) and two  
hydrologists (Ken Kolm and Schaun Smith) who are working on a  
paleohydrological model of the area that we hope to eventually couple  
to the Swarm sim. All this is funded by an NSF Biocomplexity Coupled  
Human/Natural Systems grant.

Because of all this activity there is no stable "release" of village  
available now, although there will be eventually (except for real site  
location data, which we can't disclose). (Not sure if there is still an  
ancient [prehistoric?] version of Village available through the CVS  
repository: start at http://savannah.nongnu.org/news/?group=swarm; it  
might be packaged with the 2.1.1 release if that's still available). We  
will make an effort to get to the 2005 Swarmfest to update the  
community about what we're doing. Meanwhile some information is  
available at the project website --  
http://www.wsu.edu/~village/index.html -- on which we'll soon put some  
of the papers just given in Montreal. Also there will be a related  
paper out in the journal Computational and Mathematical Organization  
Theory (http://www.kluweronline.com/issn/1381-298X/contents) pretty  
soon .  . . first author Reynolds.

Thanks for your interest and hope this all helps a little.

best, TK

On Mar 30, 2004, at 1:34 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

> Glad Swarm works!
>
> Concerning Village: That's always been my favorite Swarm model.
>
> I don't think you should rely on that copy of Village6 that I have in  
> the OtherPeoplesCode directory.  Its my mistake that it is even up  
> there anymore.  I was offering some help to *Tim Kohler  *(at  
> Washingon State) *and parts of that research team *and gave them back  
> that code along with the snapshots that are in that directory.  The  
> program accesses data that lives in big files that were kept  
> separately.  Last year, I was really excited about that code and was  
> making some pretty deep changes in the structure of that model to make  
> it work more to my liking, but I do not know what path the project has  
> followed since then.  But I bet they have something excellent to show  
> you.
>
> I forgot to remove it from my web page. I am taking it down now.  I  
> just put it there originally so the members of the team could see my  
> cool  pictures.
>
> I believe that the Village model in the Swarm ftp does work well. I  
> think that's version 4 or so.
>
> If you want the Village code, I'd urge you to contact the authors.   
> They have been very helpful to me over the years.
> I'm cc'ing this to Tim, hopefully he can put you in touch with  
> somebody who can fill you in on the current version of the model.
>
> pj
>
> Giovanni Maniscalco Basile wrote:
>
> > Dear Pj,
> >
> > thanks, everything worked OK.
> >
> > I also donwloaded from your Swarm site the gzipped Village6 code.
> > It compiled all right, but at runtime it complained that it didn't  
> > find some data files: hydro.data
> > degrade.data, etc. I got some of them from an earlier version of the  
> > simulation, but no all the needed files.
> > Do you know where I can find them?
> >
> > Thank you again.
> >
> > Giovanni Maniscalco Basile
> >
> > Il sab, 2004-03-27 alle 17:14, Paul Johnson ha scritto:
> >
> > > / Here's the error in your output:
> > >
> > > gperf: command not found
> > >
> > > That means you should install the package "gperf"
> > >
> > > please note I do not mean "my_java_dir" literally. I mean to point  
> > > at where your system has java installed.  On my systems, it is  
> > > /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_03
> > >
> > > Giovanni Maniscalco Basile wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tried to compile swarm-2.1.148.20041022 on a SuSE 9.0 system  
> > > > following the instructions given by PJ:
> > > >
> > > > #cd swarm-2.1.148
> > > > # mkdir builddir
> > > > # cd builddir
> > > > # CC=/usr/bin/gcc ../configure --prefix=/usr --enable-subdirs  
> > > > --with-defaultdir=/usr --with-jdkdir=my_java_dir
> > > >
> > > > then
> > > >
> > > > # make
> > > >
> > > > the make process gave the following error:
> > > >
> > > > /home/maniba/swarm/swarm-2.1.148.20040122/builddir/_common.elc
> > > > Done
> > > > Wrote  
> > > > /home/maniba/swarm/swarm-2.1.148.20040122/builddir/_protocol.elc
> > > > Done
> > > > Wrote  
> > > > /home/maniba/swarm/swarm-2.1.148.20040122/builddir/_interface.elc
> > > > Done
> > > > Wrote  
> > > > /home/maniba/swarm/swarm-2.1.148.20040122/builddir/src/_getters.elc
> > > > Done
> > > > cc1: warning: "-Wno-protocol" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > cc1: warning: "-fgnu-runtime" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > cc1: warning: "-Wno-protocol" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > cc1: warning: "-fgnu-runtime" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > cc1: warning: "-Wno-protocol" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > cc1: warning: "-fgnu-runtime" is valid for ObjC but not for C/C++
> > > > ../../../src/misc/xmalloc.c:10: warning: empty declaration
> > > > ../../../src/misc/xmalloc.c:11: warning: empty declaration
> > > > ../../../src/misc/xmalloc.c:12: warning: empty declaration
> > > > ../../../src/misc/xmalloc.c:13: warning: empty declaration
> > > > Wrote  
> > > > /home/maniba/swarm/swarm-2.1.148.20040122/builddir/src/defobj/ 
> > > > _modulemap.elc
> > > > Done
> > > > /bin/sh: line 1: gperf: command not found
> > > > make[5]: *** [../../../src/defobj/modulemap.c] Error 127
> > > > make[4]: *** [all] Error 2
> > > > make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
> > > > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> > > > make: *** [all] Error 2
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I attach the config.log and Makefile
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Giovanni Maniscalco Basile
> > > >
> > > > P.S. does it exists a newer version of Swarm?
> > > > If so, where is it?
> > > >
> > > > GMB
> > > >
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