Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [Texmacs-dev] Cyrillic encoding problem

[Павел Пантелеев]

Hello, Joris!

Thanks for the answer. I've tried different input methods for
Russian, but it works only if I use a kind of transliteration (Translit, Jcuken,
Yawerty). But this kind of input method is strange for people that
have Russian keyboard.

Regards,
Pavel

> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:39:54AM +0300, ????? ????????? wrote:
>> Hello, all.
>> 
>>   I often use TeXmacs to write my papers.
>>   I really like it! Many thanks to all developers.
>>   But I have some troubles with Cyrillic encoding.
>>   As far as I understand TeXmacs represents
>>   cyrillic letters as unicode symbols.
>>   For example, if I write "Hello!" (in russian "Privet!")
>>   TeXmacs saves in tm-file the string:
>>   "\<#41F\>\<#440\>\<#438\>\<#432\>\<#435\>\<#442\>!".
>>   Maybe Unicode for internal representation is good but
>>   it's very inconveniently for many reasons:

> It is strange that things are encoded as Unicode;
> in principle, Russian is encoded using the T2 encoding.
> This must be a change in X. Please try to select some other
> input method for Russian in the preferences

>         Edit -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Cyrillic input method

>>   1) TeXmacs Hyphenation tables for russian language use TeX T2
>>      encoding (very close to standard cp1251 windows encoding).
>>      So it doesn't work.
>>      
>>   2) I can't use external editor to edit and view tm-files.
>> 
>>   3) I can't use spell-checker in TeXmacs.
>> 
>>   4) Import to Latex doesn't work. It writes empty string instead of
>>      "Hello!" (in russian cp1251) but it produces valid header:
>>      \usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc}
>>      \usepackage[russian]{babel}
>>      I also can read latex files in cp1251 encoding very well. But if I
>>      save them in tm-format they store russian text in TeX T2A
>>      encoding instead of unicode!
>>      
>> 
>>   But if replace the sequence:
>>   "\<#41F\>\<#440\>\<#438\>\<#432\>\<#435\>\<#442\>!" in tm-file
>>   in external editor with "Hello!" (in russian in T2A
>>   encoding) and read it by TeXmacs then all is OK. Hyphenation
>>   works pretty good. So I deduce that TeXmacs can handle T2A encoding
>>   pretty good.

> Yes, things should work using the T2 encoding;
> there must be a problem with the input method.
> Anyway, the Russian support needs to be updated since a while.
> We plan to really migrate to Unicode, but time time time...

> Best wishes, Joris


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