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Re: [therion-users] Re: New version of therion
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Stacho Mudrak |
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Re: [therion-users] Re: New version of therion |
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Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:35:30 +0200 |
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Presumably you have fixed the script?
I'm sorry - no. Probably nobody uses these versions - so I thought it
useless (at least no time for that).
I thought that's what you said but I didn't understand how metapost and
Tex
macros could be compiled into a C++ executable - I assumed TeX/Metapost
still needed to be able to see the files somewhere.
They're stored in C++ as string constants and written directly to the
beginning of MP file and TeX file. This is quite nasty - but seems to be
very idiot-proof.
1. Automatically generated graphical scale, north arrow, title, authors
and legend should be added to map and atlas by default. User will have
possibility to modify them.
That would be sensible - it wil need quite a lot of flexibility. Standard
slots for Grade/survey type/entrance location(s) would probably be
helpful.
Other info can be free text.
Of course - we will discuss it at meetend in two weeks, than I'll let you
know and we can discuss it in conference.
4. 3D passage wall modeling.
Survex (survex-1_1 branch in CVS) now has general passages round
centrelines using
opengl (also C++ code). Currently they are square because we haven't got
code to read in better passage-dimension info yet. It may well be
possible
to 1) use that code in therion or 2) have therion provide passage
dimension info to Aven and use that viewer
Thanks - at least the second possibility will be supported - because OpenGL
at TclTk is not so easy to set-up. Do you have also other shapes in aven?
Can I insert sections on other points, than centerline?
5. My suggestion:
I need to do some more drawing to be sure but at the moment I think we
need
to improve xtherion so that drawing is not so slow - It will never be as
fast as pen-drawing but currently I find it takes an amazingly long time
and
this makes me wonder if Therion is really practical for my surveys -
things like code to auto-track walls would save a lot of time (TunnelX
has
this but it's java so we can't just use it directly unfortunately).
Easier
ways of drawing large, specific boulders. Maybe all I need is a list of
the
keyboard shortcuts for starting and stopping lines, changing line types,
moving around the data-file. Is there one?
Ad shortcuts:
* create line : Ctrl+l (see menu)
* finish line : click (insert point) on the last point by right button
* close line: click (insert point) on the first line point
* changing line type - no at the moment - do you have any idea? Some popup
menu or something simmilar?
* moving around the data file - what do you mean? Scrolling can be done via
left-click and mouse move. We plan to put tree instead of list with objects
(file commands). Object search should work also.
OK, I will put to TODO on the first place making the list of all controls
to thbook.
Ad wall tracking:
I have this in a long-term TODO - but if there is a code doing this in
TunnelX, I can try to steal it (transcription to Tcl from Java should be no
problem). By the way - you can use TunnelX (if it's faster) and convert
data to therion (as far as I know TunnelX, it should not be big problem -
just removing the <>""= XML stuff should be more or less enought. Or you
can definitelly use TunnelX :-)
Ad boulders:
I draw rock-edge lines not very cosher way (shapes like Y or so)- some line
segments are entered twise - but then I enter the entire rock-edge by one
line.
I admit I have spent too much time packaging and not enough actually
using
recently! I have some surveys to draw soon so I'll use it some more...
I'm very curious about your impressions...
S.