Re: Fwd: Re: [Traverso-devel] Thoughts on plugin strategy

[Jonatan Liljedahl]

Remon wrote:
>>> We could use the key actions <F2> to switch all tracks to layer 2, and
>>> <F1> to switch them all to layer 1.
>>>
>>> Does that make sense?
>> Sure, but in curve view one also need boxes to choose which curve to
>> view for the currently selected plugin. Also one should see what plugin
>> is selected without having to switch layer. One problem is it takes
>> little too long to switch to another plugin when in curve mode: first
>> F2, then select plugin, then F3 to get back to the curves.
>> Also, I think the waveform should be visible under the curve, it can be
>> good to see where you are in the audio, etc...
> 
> Indeed
> 
>> I had a suggestion to let the layers be toggled on/off individually, so
>> one can choose to see waveform only, waveform+pluginboxes,
>> waveform+plugins+curves, or waveform+curves. 
> 
> Makes sense, and is what I have in mind, except the last one. A bunch of 
> curves on a wave form, it doesn' mean anything to the user, right ?

I think it does! The user could want to align a change in the curve with
a change in the audio, and seeing the waveform can help a lot (depending
on what kind of audio it is...)

>> But then the problem is if 
>> the 'D' key for drag should move plugin or clip, etc.. but as long as
> 
> Not sure what you mean here ?
> If it is about the problem that [ D ] in effects mode potentially could move 
> clips, where you wanted to move an effect plugin, don't worry!
> The key actions can be configured on a 'per mode' and 'per object' basis.
> So, moving audioclips would only be possible in Edit Mode, and won't do 
> anything in Effect mode....

Yes, I understand that. I was just thinking along the terms of layers
instead of modes: that maybe one wouldn't need to have separate modes,
but only toggles to enable/disable the different layers. which would
mean that both clip and curve view could be active at the same time.

>> they are in the top of the view one should still be able to point at the
>> plugins or at the clip. Perhaps the curves would need an explicit
>> editing mode though, but still be visible in the other mode (but more
>> transparent)?
> 
> I'm a little lost here, perhaps some picture would help ?

The curves could be visisble also in non-curve mode, but more faded
visually...

>>> Oh, and please keep writing in English, otherwise my answers take even
>>> longer :-P
>> Eller varför inte svenska, det förstår väl alla? ;)
> 
> You too :-P
> (No idea what it means lol)

Hehe. It means "Or why not swedish, everyone understands that, right?" =)

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