Re: yet another patch to reduce make output

[Ralf Corsepius]

On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 08:43 -0600, Jason Kraftcheck wrote:
> Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
> > Hello Jason,
> > 
> > thanks for your work.  While I'm not to judge this, and pretty
> > indifferent about it, a couple of question to clarify a bit:
> > 
> > * Jason Kraftcheck wrote on Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:36:55PM CET:
> >> This patch prefixes the compile and link commands in the generated
> >> Makefile's with $(AM_PFX).  It leaves AM_PFX undefined, so the default
> >> behavior is unchanged.  If a package maintainer wants to change the
> >> output, (s)he can do something like: AM_PFX = @echo "$@ ...";

If you really want to reduce verbosity, you can't avoid making it a
configuration-time or run-time option, not an automake-option, otherwise
you are forcing people not liking your style of "verbosity", to patch
around into your sources.

> > What's the improvement over
> >   AM_MAKEFLAGS = -s
Did you try setting "MAKEFLAGS=-s" in your environment?

Frankly speaking, I am still far from finding your intention helpful.
Such "non-verbose" makefiles are a massive PITA, for example during
Fedora package reviews and when debugging broken Makefiles.

Ralf